Happiness (page 2)

Mr. Majestic

Damn if it's "Wrong", I want to do it! Do any Ex-JWs celebrate holidays?

Celebrated my first family Christmas this year just gone. I didn’t flinch an eyelid.

Really pleased for my mum, even though she felt a little guilty…..

Hope4Others

I get those looks now from jw's i run into, but I am happy....

And I let them know it...when they ask me...

I always say "Life is just Great" It couldn't get any better....

sacolton

Can't wait to put up my first 15 ft Christmas tree in nine years. woohoo!

I'm also gonna give out Halloween candy to the kids this year!!!

The holidays don't make the person ... it's how the person celebrates the holiday. If you research, almost everything comes from Pagans.

No, you have it wrong. See, JWs may not be happy, but they are joyful. Everyday in the last of the last days of this old system, worldly people act happy, but they're not joyful. Hojovah's Witnesses are unhappy everyday, but they're joyful because billions of people are about to be killed and all the dubs will get pet tigers. See, then they'll be joyful and happy. They're just not happy now... but they are joyful... because they're proving something about somebody's universal sovereignty by not celebrating stuff. Sorry, I just threw up a little bit in my mouth when I proofread that.

Family get-togethers at the holidays would be nice, we never get together often enough. Birthdays would be cool. In keeping with what we can learn from Biblical examples, just don't chop off any heads.

saco said:

If you research, almost everything comes from Pagans.

I've said it before and I'll say it again... PANTS ARE PAGAN !!!! Everyone should wear dresses like Jesus did !

B the X

only me

My daughters and I celebrate holidays now. We put up a tree the last 2 years and celebrated the other holidays in a more subdued way. Oh, except for Halloween, that we went trick ot treating for the first time last year. It was simply amazing. The people were so friendly and we had a blast- who knew? I had always been taught it wasn't "real fun" HA My daughter is already planning her costume for this year.

Christmas is my favorite though. My JW husband doesn't say much about the tree, he hates it but he leaves it alone. He goes to visit his family for a few days at the actual holiday, so we don't have him glowering at us on Christmas lol.

He doesn't seem to mind birthdays too much. He hs helped wrap birthday presents and actually bought a couple toys to put in a gift for our niece's birthday. My lips were zipped- I'm not saying anything if he wants to join in a little.

Blasty

I definately celebrate holidays now.

This was one of the fundemental things that are wrong about WTBTS. Where something originate has no bearing on how it is used or incorporated by an individual. Guilt by association is not an automatic thing, in fact it's a very slippery slope.

If you really got into researching where everything came from, you probably wouldn't be able to use anything. Do you have any idea how much stuff we use today because it was originally designed for military use? And I'm not talking about just guns..

God judges us by our actions and what's in our heart. I celebrate Christmas to appreciate what Jesus did for me, to appreciate the family he gave me, and to give of myself freely as he did. These are good things. I'm not celebrating some dumb ass pope, or some retarded pagan dudes ideas, I could care less about them.

Everything you do comes down to the reasons why you do it, if your reasons are good, then it is good. As others on this board say, the world is not black and white, it's in technicolor. Going to church or the hall is not by default a good thing, it's only good if your reasons for doing it are good. If I went to the hall merely to pick up chicks, I'm not doing a good thing. If i celebrated christmas merely to get that kick butt present, that's not good, that's greed. All about reasons.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

If I went to the hall merely to pick up chicks, I'm not doing a good thing.

Too bad Blasty, cause these pioneer chicks were really wanting to get picked up good...

B the X

Blasty

wow....ummm eek.

I'm sure that's nothing an extreme makeover Season finale episode couldn't fix.

kitsune

I can understand where you come from. I never understood growing up why I had to think that "worldly" people were mean and miserable and I shouldn't associate with them, but yet it was the loving thing to preach to them to make them happy like me (which of course I was just BURSTING with happiness *sarcasam*). It never clicked with me and was one of the things that got me thinking as a teenager that something wasn't right.

I still have to contend with this with my mother since I DA'd and it has been a huge source of frustration for me. When I do get the occasion to talk to her (but since I have been reading the posts here, I am determined to not play by their rules, even if it means I send them a letter to tell them I love every single week even if they won't talk to me ) she always spends 10 to 15 minutes spouting about how I am not "truly happy" until I put myself back on the "right path to true happiness and repentance", which of course means getting rid of the "worldly and sinful influence" that is my boyfriend (we met after I left). She just doesn't get it. I have a wonderful relationship with my boyfriend (soon to be engaged), were looking for a house to start a family, I have a ton of friends, and have enjoyed celebrating my birthday for the first time; all the things I would have never enjoyed had I continued in the organization to keep the family happy. She is so programmed that she is nothing without the organization, I don't think she'll ever realize it. I just try to stay hopeful that one day she will think about the information that I tell her a little at a time and realize that she doesn't need them.

WTWizard

I wonder how the witlesses could possibly be happy. Everything they do is dictated by the Filthful and Disgraceful Slavebugger. How they are to do sex is dictated. There are so many rules about picking a partner that the hounders can use them to single out a "brother" for everlasting celibacy and the Value Destroyer Training School at will. And the rules ensure that any marriages that do happen in spite of them will stagnate.

The work is stagnating, too. You go knock on a door. The householder comes. You say "We are here to place these wastes of paper with you and your neighbors this [time of day]. You hand them the waste of paper. You move on to the next door. Repeat. How is that stimulating? As I see it, there is no variety in this. No room for things to go wrong--not at homes simply get a waste of paper left in the door. Nothing stimulating.

Boasting sessions are canned. Gone are the varieties of comments. Everything has to stick with what the Filthful and Disgraceful Slavebugger puts in the washtowel or Kingdumb Misery. Experiences are heavily edited to make the witlesses look better, and may even be totally recorded in Brooklyn and put on MP3s for playback while the mic is not hooked up. The a$$emblies are all the same, and they always have purge parties for fun activities, music, and videos afterward.

Otherwise, there is nothing. No vacations. No rewarding careers. No higher education, either in college or online. No small study groups. No social events (the ones that are still going, the hounder-hounders or whoever is replacing them will disband). And, of course, their only "holiday" is the REJECT Jesus Party and the three months of pioneering, waste of paper campaigns, and any a$$embly that is nearby that happens in March or April. No wonder the witlesses are not happy.

And, let's not leave out that they can not possibly do enough. Put in 10 hours a month, they want 20 or 30. Do that, and they want auxiliary pioneer. Then regular pioneer. Then Beth Hell (only to get thrown out when your health deteriorates). Give up material things. Donate to the Worldwide Pedophile Defense Fund. No matter how much you do, they always want more.

No, worldly people are not always happy. However, they are usually happier as a group than the witlesses. And people that leave the witlesses usually find that there is one less thing holding them back once they leave.

Happiness

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