Those With JW Spouses - How are you Coping ? Any experiences ?

by flipper 28 Replies latest jw friends

  • flipper
    flipper

    I wanted to address the folks on board here who really have a challenge on their hands. And I feel it's good for us to acknowledge the great job many of them are accomplishing with the pressures they have on them living with a spouse in a mind control cult. I know it would be so easy sometimes for some in that position to say , " the hell with it ! " , and just give in just to keep the peace and go back to the witnesses for the sake of their spouse ! But then a person wouldn't be true to themself or their new belief system ! So, it's a catch 22 !

    I was married 19 years to a witness woman, and even though most of those years we were both witnesses , many times we DID NOT see eye to eye on important things that we should have agreed on allegedly. Finally , I wore out always being publicly perceived in the congregation as the spiritually " weak " mate , as I did not want to be an elder or ministerial servant, which annoyed the witness wife . And with her painted smile at the kingdom hall, but acting tyrannical at home - I tired of the double life style.

    So, I tip my hat to you who are hanging in there in your situations with JW spouses ! Perhaps you would be able to share with others here how you are coping in your situation , so they may get some positive ideas to use ! What experiences are you having as you move forward with your new life - yet still having a JW spouse ? As always, I look forward to your thoughts ! Let's help each other ! Peace out, Mr. Flipper

  • llbh
    llbh

    HI MR Flipper,

    My situation is fairly well known here, and i have sadly decided to call it a day. My wife is a lovely lady, we sadly have less and less in common since i left.

    The elders are are telling her i may spiritually endanger her, as although i do not impose my viiews i do disgiuse them either, another complication

    We are blessed with three bright lovely chilldren, but we, my wife and i connect less and less so for me it is time to move on. Fortunately money will not be a source of conflict.

    Regards David

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut

    My life dealing with a JW spouse has been an open book on JWD.
    I am looking forward to my wife reading these threads one day.
    I also am a bit scared that she will be concerned that our marriage was
    discussed here, but I still look forward to having to explain why when
    she reads it.

    I won't rehash my story here. Just click on my TOPIC HISTORY for
    the stories.

    While my fade has been difficult for me and my wife has not left the cult,
    she supports my right to cease all JW-activity and she has been less
    fixated on being a proper JW. I have helped her to think for herself and she
    won't admit that WTS is not God's organization, but she has been busy
    with "worldly" activities including developing a support network of friends outside
    of the "brothers and sisters."

  • Quirky1
    Quirky1

    My life dealing with a JW spouse has been an open book on JWD.
    I am looking forward to my wife reading these threads one day.
    I also am a bit scared that she will be concerned that our marriage was
    discussed here, but I still look forward to having to explain why when
    she reads it.

    In the same boat.

    Still tryiing to make it day by day...

    Quirky

  • flipper
    flipper

    LLBH- I'm sorry to hear about your marriage. I know you tried . In my first marriage I had 3 children also - so I do understand your pain. Been there, definitely done that ! Hopefully you will be able to stay connected closely to your children and involved in their lives still ! I hope your wife will see the need to keep you included in your children's lives ! I had to fight my ex-wife in court just to visit my kids as she tried keeping them from me when I was disfellowshipped ! Always insist on your children's right to have a father ! In the U.S.A. it's the law !

    OTWO- I'm glad your wife has been supporting your right to cease your JW activity ! It's also good she is opening up to getting friends outside the witness organization ! All in good time, all in good time. She will gradually change .

    QUIRKY- That's all you can do bud, is keep one foot in front of the other ! Day by day ! Keep plugging away and things will work out in time - one way or the other ! Hang in there ! Peace out, Mr. Flipper

  • flipper
    flipper

    Just wanted to give this a bump for those who are getting home from work. Look forward to any and all replies to help people out who have JW spouses still in ! Everyone's take is valuable ! Peace out, Mr. Flipper

  • carla
    carla

    Sometimes it just sucks being a watchtower widow. Other times I feel he is mentally ill in a way. I know some of you may find offense at that but what is my other choice? To know and think on a daily basis that he has chosen an org that I find as reprehensible as the Nazi's in many ways over his wife and children? That would be too painful on a daily basis so we play little psychological tricks on ourselves to get through the day. Some days I pity him because he is being so misled and he has damaged his relationships almost beyond repair and seems to have no clue about it, or has been trained not to care what his 'worldly' family feels. There are a number of milestones in the kids lives he has missed that are so monumental to the kids, they will never really forgive him for a few of them, not sure I would either. There are days he is his 'authentic self' and old memories flood back, which later just pisses me off because it never lasts of course. Another meeting or fs is right around the corner to muck it all up. Some days it is like having to live someone who has dumped you. Many who have found out he has become a jw have lost enormous respect for him and again he has no clue, they will usually say 'I thought he was smarter than that'.

    After a few years which I have tried every known anti cult suggestion (except for the old kidnapping deprogramming) I believe a jw must come to their own conclusions in their own time. That does not mean I will always be here to accept his treatment and abandonment. I do not leave him alone with the kids and can literally count the times in the past few years he has even been alone in the car to the grocery with them. Nobody in my family leaves their children alone with him even for a walk around the yard because he cannot help himself, though there does seem to be some improvement in that area.

    All that being said, we are able to go out and have a really nice time. I get tired of the elephant following us and having to always keep in mind the jw thing as he may be offended at something so easily now or find something 'immoral' even if it had nothing immoral attached to it, his mind just works that way now. The wt has very sucessfully put that wedge in. Often there will be some pretty terrible things going on in the family and we all decide not to tell him because he will either send jw's over or go himself and attempt to tell the victim, couple, ill person, (pick your trouble) that they are sinners and if they will just join him at the khell all their troubles will be fixed. And so they lose even more respect for him for being such a cold uncaring ass. Let's say a woman got the crap beat out of her, she really doesn't care at that moment or weeks following that 'he means well'. He sounds like an arrogant ass.

    Somedays me & kids laugh about some really stupid stuff he has said and they wonder where the heck he got it from. Then there are the movies & shows that have jw references, never in a good light, and we try very hard not to laugh while he is there and giggle about it later. Once he even laughed and claimed 'we really aren't that bad'. So there is humor here about the whole situation. Either laugh or cry and we (me & kids) have all had enough tears so we try to laugh about the insanity of it all and say 'some day......' And 'some day' will come and he will wonder what the hell happened.

  • treadnh2o
    treadnh2o

    Flipper,
    The biggest thing that sucks for me is I can not, rather will not, subject my young kids to the shunning until they have a support group to counteract the shunning. I have told my wife I will write "the letter" but she has asked me not to do that to her. I think she wants the marriage to work even though she is obviously heartbroken about my new position concerning the Dubs.

    The positives for me is that my kids do have "worldly"association that my wife encourages. The Hall we are in( I've been once in the past 2 months to help with the kids, has absolutely no love. And she will not turn me in to the elders.

    Anyway I have taken the patient approach. If it takes years,so be it. Once my kids are old enough to make a decision for themselves we all know the will be out with Daddy following. I don't suspect it will take that long.

    Gotta go smoke a cigar!

    h2o

  • flipper
    flipper

    CARLA- You certainly do have your hands full - I see. My wife and I just kind of look at my JW relatives like you stated, they are " mentally ill " in a way being mind controlled by a cult. I'm sorry your husband is missing out on special occasions with the children. He will regret it in time, unless he changes. And, as you said, they regret it too. Maybe some day he won't be so fanatical. I agree with you - it really is a weird experience seeing witnesses go from the authentic personality to the " cult " personality. It is creepy as hell. Hang in there sis ! We are with you in spirit.

    TREADNH20- That's good you are protecting your children from the shunning ! It sounds like your children will follow your lead in time. It's good they have worldly friends who can give them a broader, more wide view of the outside world, instead of just " witnessville " ! Hang in there bro, keep the good work up ! Peace out, Mr. Flipper

  • tiffy0212
    tiffy0212

    I have been a wt widow for over 21 years. long story read my post. I am very lonely and have been with him 42 yrs, but will get out soon. Everyday is a struggle and I hate it. I have 2 wonderful children and 2 grandchildren, they are my life. They tell me to do what makes me feel good and to enjoy my life. Sometimes when I speak with him he lies right to my face about his belief, I get so angry I cry. I don't hurt anymore that is gone, but the anger is eating me up. Take alot of drugs to keep calm beause I have some health issues. He doesn't even know what I take and frankly he doesn't really give a dam. Life is all about him and his needs. Sex life is gone and he won't get any help with that because the drugs don't work on him. No implant for him probably against his belief. We don't do much together because he is always gone meeting, field service and more meetings.

    When I tell him I am leaving he says the bible says if you can't live together in peace then leave. So I guess I will leave. We have to stay strong and keep encouraged that there is a better life for us.

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