I like Nasa's reaction
"Dr Mitchell is a great American, but we do not share his opinions on this issue."
Nothing more needs to be said
Ex astronaut says Aliens exist but NASA covers it up.
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hamilcarr
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hillary_step
John,
How old are you Hillary? lol
lol...Mid fifties and by the looks of your avatar, fitter than you are.
HS
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Burger Time
The chances of him telling the truth are just as great as him making it all up. I agree with you John about how he takes some third party knowledge and then makes claims it must be real. He never claims he saw visitors or witnessed any UFO's just that someone told him about it.
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hamilcarr
"Dr Mitchell is a great American, but we do not share his opinions on this issue."
Contrary to what one poster on another thread has claimed, it seems to be possible that great Americans differ in their opinions on important issues.
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chrisjoel
I could Understand IF it was ONLY ONE astronaut but ITS NOT:
www.agoracosmopolitan.com/home/Frontpage/2007/09/07/01749.html
U.S. Astronauts reveal encounters with apparent Extraterrestrials and UFOs
Edited by Peter Tremblay
Rumors have persisted for years that the astronauts -- nearly all of whom are military officers susceptible to being silenced under orders -- may have seen something more on the Moon than rocks and dust.
According to transcripts of the technical debriefing following the Apollo 11 mission, astronauts Armstrong, Edwin "Buzz" Aldrin and Michael Collins told of an encounter with a large cylindrical UFO even before reaching the Moon," U.S. investigative journalist and researcher Jim Marrs documents Mr. Aldrin further officially presented his encounters with apparent Extraterrestrials on CNN's Larry King Show.
Jim Marrs further presents that Mr. Aldrin said, "The first unusual thing that we saw I guess was one day out or pretty close to the Moon. It had a sizable dimension to it". Aldrin said the Apollo crew at first thought the object was the Saturn 4 booster rocket (S-IVB); but, he added, "We called the ground and were told the S-IVB was 6,000 miles away."
Mr. Aldrin described the UFO as a cylinder, while Armstrong said it was "really two rings" Two connected rings". Collins also said it appeared to be a hollow, tumbling cylinder. He added, "It was a hollow cylinder. But then you could change the focus on the sextant and it would be replaced by this open-book shape. It was really weird."
Even more strange was the experience of Mr. Aldrin and Mr. Armstrong, after they reached the Moon.
According to an Associated Press story of July 20, 1969 published in the San Bernardino Sun-Telegram, the astronauts sighted eerie lights inside a crater near the point on the Moon where their lunar lander was due to touch down the next day.
On their first sweep around the Moon, Armstrong described a mysterious bright light on the inner wall of the crater Aristarchus, located north of their flight path. "It seems to have a slight amount of florescence to it. The area in the crater is quite bright," he reported.
"That area is definitely brighter than anything else I can see. There doesn't appear to be any color involved in it. It looks like an eerie sight," confirmed Aldrin.
Two astronauts who appear to have broken ranks are Dr. Edgar Mitchell and Gordon Cooper. On The Oprah Winfrey Show on 19 July 1991, Mitchell hinted that all information regarding UFOs has not been released, saying, "I do believe that there is a lot more known about extraterrestrial investigation than is available to the public right now [and] has been for a long time... It's a long, long story. It goes back to World War II when all of that happened, and is highly classified stuff."
On Dateline NBC in 1996, Mitchell was even more candid. "I have no firsthand experience, but I have had the opportunity to meet with people from three countries who in the course of their official duties claim to have had personal firsthand encounter experiences... with Extraterrestrials," he said. Jim Marrs says that "Mitchell flatly stated that some advanced military craft use technology derived from alien spacecraft that have been collected by the U.S. Government."
Cooper, in a letter read during a 1978 meeting at the United Nations to discuss UFOs, stated, "...I believe that these extraterrestrial vehicles and their crews are visiting this planet form other planets, which are obviously a little more advanced than we are here on Earth."
Also that year, Mr. Cooper wrote a letter to the ambassador of the Mission of Grenada to the United Nations supporting a UN initiative to study UFOs. In his letter, Cooper stated that astronauts "are very reluctant even to discuss UFOs due to the great numbers of people who have indiscriminately sold fake stories and forged documents, abusing their names and reputations without hesitation. Those few astronauts who have continued to participate in the UFO field have had to do so very cautiously. There are several of us who do believe in UFOs and who have had occasion to see a UFO on the ground, or from an airplane."
Cooper's mention of a "UFO on the ground. apparently was a reference to his own experience at Edwards Air Force Base on May 2, 1957. In 1993, Cooper gave this account of the incident: "I had a crew that was filming an installation of a precision landing system we were installing out on the dry lake bed, and they were there with stills and movies, and filmed the whole installation and they came running in to tell me that this UFO, a little saucer, had come down right over them, put down three gear, and landed about 50 yards from them, and as they proceeded to go on over to get a closer shot of it, it lifted up, put the gear in, and disappeared in a rapid rate of speed.
"And so I had to follow my directions as a military... I had to look up the regulations on who I was to call to report this, which I did, and they ordered me to immediately have the film developed, put it in a pouch, and send them by the commanding general's plane to Washington, which I did. And that was the last I've ever heard of the film."
It is interesting to note indicates Mr. Marrs that, "despite the continued protests that there is no government secrecy regarding UFOs, there is no public report on this incident. Although the event was listed in the Project Blue Book index, a full report and clear photos are suspiciously absent."
Yet Mr. Cooper, who reported the UFO landing, was selected as a Mercury astronaut only two years later. In a 1996 interview, Mr. Cooper said he discounts any conventional explanation for his experience. Asked his thoughts on UFOs, the astronaut said, "Well, I figured it was somebody coming from some distant place to visit us."
Steve Omar, another investigative journalist and researcher, indicates that J. Allen Hynek (who investigated U.F.O.s for the U.S. Air Force), Major Donald Keyhoe, Timothy Good (in his book Above Top Secret) suggest secrecy about UFOs and Extraterrestrials. One unquestionably absolute expert we may want to consult is Christopher Kraft, who was Director of the NASA tracking base in Houston during the Apollo Moon missions, when he revealed the following conversation “after” he left his work at NASA:
- ASTRONAUTS NElL ARMSTRONG and BUZZ ALDRIN speaking from the Moon: “Those are giant things. No, no, no .... this is not an optical illusion. No one is going to believe this!”
- MISSION CONTROL (HOUSTON CENTER): “What...what...what? What the hell is happening? What’s wrong with you?”
- ASTRONAUTS: “They’re here under the surface.”
- MISSION CONTROL: “What’s there? Emission interrupted... interference control calling Apollo II.”
- ASTRONAUTS: “We saw some visitors. They were there for awhile, observing the instruments.”
- MISSION CONTROL: ”Repeat your last information.”
- ASTRONAUTS: “I say that there were other spaceships. They’re lined up on the other side of the crater.”
- MISSION CONTROL: “Repeat...repeat!”
- ASTRONAUTS: “Let us sound this orbita ..... In 625 to 5... automatic relay connected... My hands are shaking so badly I can’t do anything. Film it? God, if these damned cameras have picked up anything... what then?”
- MISSION CONTROL: “Have you picked up anything?”
- ASTRONAUTS: “I didn’t have any film at hand. Three shots of the saucers or whatever they were that were ruining the film.”
- MISSION CONTROL: “Control, control here. Are you on your way? Is the uproar with the U.F.O.s. over?
- ASTRONAUTS: “They’ve landed there. There they are and they are watching us.”
- MISSION CONTROL: “The mirrors, the mirrors...have you set them up?”
> - ASTRONAUTS: “Yes, they’re in the right place. But whoever made those space ships surely can come tomorrow and remove them. Over and out.”
There is an unconfirmed report, also documented by Steve Omar, that when Buzz Aldrin opened the door after landing on the Moon, he immediately saw a transparent etherical being staring at him outside. Welcome to the Moon?? Allegedly, NASA Director Kraft added that there was a public and a secret private A.S.A. radio frequency between Moon and Mission Control and that the conversation above took place during a mysterious two minute interruption in public transmissions. To prove it is the truth, hundreds of independent CIVILIAN radio operators with powerful VHF equipment separately reported hearing the AME spaceship report from the Apollo moon-walkers!
"Soviet radio operators also picked it up and published it in Moscow. Another mysterious radio message from the Moon was broadcast on French public television only one time before it was censored AFTER it leaked out. That transmission appeared to be a mysterious clearly spoken ALIEN LANGUAGE," further reports Steve Omar.
The famous French historian and author Robbert Charroux published the transmission which has been suppressed in the U.S. It came from U.S. astronaut Worden who transmitted it to NASA, and expert linguists have been unable to translate the message.
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lrkr
From what I understand- scientifically it is possible and even likely that other life could exist in the universe. However, the chances of them evolving to a point where we could communicate at the same time in the history of the universe and in close enough proximity to transfer information makes it nearly impossible that we will ever encounter them.
I wouldn't say that the testimony of guys who have been cooped up in a tin can, deprived of oxygen, sleep, and subjected to severly high g-forces is entirely acceptable as proof of extraterrestrial life or government coverup.
The government has never really been able to successfully cover anything up.
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hillary_step
> - ASTRONAUTS: “Yes, they’re in the right place. But whoever made those space ships surely can come tomorrow and remove them. Over and out.”
lol....'Over and out!". This phrase would never have occurred in a NASA exchange.
Someone is funning with us.
HS
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John Doe
lol...Mid fifties and by the looks of your avatar, fitter than you are.
Could be--I've never been in good health. But, at least I ain't an old man.
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BurnTheShips
it seems to be possible that great Americans differ in their opinions on important issues.
Well of course! What poster said it wasn't so?
BTS
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neverendingjourney
the chances of them evolving to a point where we could communicate at the same time in the history of the universe and in close enough proximity to transfer information makes it nearly impossible that we will ever encounter them.
Exactly. We know that the statistical probability of simple life developing is extremely remote. The probability of intelligent life developing from such simple organisms is extremely remote as well. It's not a common occurrence. Let's keep in mind that there are no signs of life or of previous life within our own solar system. We've had antennas scanning our vast universe for transmissions from distant planets for years now, but they haven't picked up anything.
Let's also not forget that the universe is some 13 billion years old. If life on Earth is any indication, most species last a few million years and then die out. In the 4 1/2 billion years of our planet's existence, intelligent life capable of sending communications to other planets has existed for about a century. Seeing as how we now have the capability of killing every single person alive through a nuclear holocaust, who knows how much longer we'll be around. Therefore, despite the fact that there are probably millions upon millions of other planets in our universe, the chance that intelligent life has evolved there and exists concurrently with intelligent life on this planet is not as much of a certainty as UFO enthusiasts make it seem.
There are also the physics problems I discussed in my previous post. In order for aliens to arrive to our planet, vessels that fly at speeds which are impossible under the laws of physics would be required. So, while I don't foreclose the possibility that aliens might have visited our planet, the idea of that happening now and that it is simultaneously being covered up by our government is simply too far-fetched for me to buy into.