Do JW's reveal all their doctrines to those they study the Bible with?

by BonaFide 47 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  carla

  If witnesses had an ounce of integrity they would tell the doors that policy and many others including the blood/you will be required to commit suicide/kill your children doctirne.

  Here's how an honest knock at the door would sound-- Hello, we would like you to join our group! We believe we have the only truth on the face of this earth. If you do not join you will be destroyed and we will get all your belongings in the new system. If you do join you will be required to attend 5 meetings a week (until Jan of 09) go out in fs each and everyweek, and once you are a full fledged member and you do something we deem sinful you will be shunned and thought of as dead. If you entire family becomes members and one of your children are baptized and then sin or leave the org, you will be required to abandon them and think of them as dead.You will be asked to limit your associations with non jw's, we will help you decide which reading material is appropriate, movies and all entertainment choices. We will also help you with your intimate life and tell you what is appropriate in bed with your spouse. We will require you to dress in the jw uniform and will help you with your grooming, men please shave off that beard! Life will be very easy for you, you will no longer have to be bothered with independent thinking! Besides, we frown on that. We will save you a bundle in college payouts as well because we frown on higher education! This is only the tip of the iceberg of wonderful blessings handed down from our fds! So how about it? are you in?
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  leavingwt

  Carla,

  Excellent post. So true.

  -Donny
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  WTWizard

  Of course not. Only when you are baptized do you realize that you are required to fake happiness, dress like everyone else, get your hair cut when they tell you and how (and where), and spend all your time out in field circus (until you are baptized, any regular time in field circus is good enough).

  Most of the basics, like the blood issue, are discussed at the boasting sessions and are found in the Washtowel Teach book.
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  Witness 007

  Yeah they should have told me about friggin Bethsarim so instead of getting baptized I would have had sex with some chicks.....God Damn it, I want my baptizm back!
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  Homerovah the Almighty

  No not at all, they front up the in coming paradise and the incumbent Armageddon and if you would like to make it through that and live in paradise

  you will have to of course join the JWS to learn how to survive.

  The indoctrination on becoming a sales person for the Watchtower Publishing House comes latter.

  In short its quite a devious scam.

  Exploitive commercialism in the face of spirituality
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  yknot

  ...I think BF has experienced shunning, and taken it hard after spending a life of blind WTS devotion......

  A lot of born-ins who have never questioned our beliefs take for granted the world in which we lived. Once the rug is pulled from underneath us, all of a sudden all is not as it seemed. Loss, sadness, dispair, frustration, anger, disbelief, depression, and then anger again are just some of the emotions.

  As for the "Organized to Do Jehovah's Will" book, and 'knowing' vs 'full understanding' or 'full comprehension"...... those two are worlds apart.

  Let us discern the study whose life apparently has been without direction, such structure seems desirable or the one seeking approval, perhaps the study who has become smitten with a JW and wishes to marry. What of the JW child who is not fully capable to understand or withstand the emotional and physical (and yes we all know of or heard of parents who put out their child) abandonment if they are unable to strictly adhere to his/her BOE interpretation of WTS standards

  .... and yes elder personality comes to play in many JCs or investigations.. Imperfect men, unbiblical principle of the 3-man JC versus congregational decision has led to many unjust decisions........

  Yknot....
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  Mickey mouse

  If BonaFide was a CO the borg really must be coming up short for qualified men.
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  james_woods

  I believe that it would be overstating the case to say that a person is never taught anything about the contraversial topics before baptism. They almost certainly are mentioned in practically every case, although as young as some are being baptised nowadays they may not fully understand all the implications.

  However, this is certainly a tacting while doing the recruitment "bible study" process. Such things as "all people everywhere except the JW will be killed at Armageddon", and the full weight of the authority of FDS, DF process, etc. are left to the very end of the process. The hope is that obviously the desire for the association of the love-bombing that new people get, and the want for paradise, will drown out the negatives if the brainwash is strong enough when they are mentioned.

  I know that in my family case, (I was 10, so was not part of it) - my father and mother had absolutely no idea of the draft issue or the flag salute deal until well past 3 months - and they found out about it by themselves...not from the bible study.
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  jamiebowers

  IMO, the rules are pretty much disclosed by the time baptism rolls around. However, the promise of everlasting life on a paradise earth is sold so early and often that sticky subjects almost seem non-existant. Also, there is no opportunity to draw conclusions about implications of being a jw. Examples: As a potential or new convert, you would never imagine that the organization would have members who are child molesters and wife beaters, let alone that such abusers will continue to have domination over their victims due to the two witness rule and the fact that a battered wife must prove adultery on the abuser's part even if her life is in danger in order to be able to remarry.
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  sf

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