My brain worked yesterday at the WT study

by BonaFide 38 Replies latest jw friends

  • BonaFide
    BonaFide

    So paragraph 11-13 yesterday discussed how lepers in Jesus' day were outcasts. They were required to call out "leper, leper" so people would stay away from them. The next paragraph says that according to rabbinical sources, a religious leader even threw rocks at a leper to keep him away. Then the next paragraph says that Jesus actually touched the man, showing him "dignity." and then healed him. The paragraph says that shows how loving Jesus is.

    I gave literally hundreds of talks all my life where I included that experience. And I used to talk about how people were so unkind, and Jesus so loving. I taught that at Pioneer School.

    Yesterday sitting at the meeting I realized that the reason the people didnt want the lepers to be near them was because they knew it would spread to them. They weren't bad people. Jesus didn't have to worry about that because he wouldn't be adversely affected.

    It's so obvious to me now, but I never thought that before. Of course Jesus could touch the man.

    When I commented that during the study, the conductor looked at me like I was Satan.

    BF

  • Kudra
    Kudra

    You actually said that as a comment?? In front of the whole congregation??

    very cool.

  • halcyon
    halcyon

    I thought you were going to say that, following Jesus' example, this is why we should be kind and loving and reach out to the "spiritually sick" who are forced to call out "Disfellowshipped!" "Disassociated!" wherever they go.

  • BonaFide
    BonaFide

    My comment yesterday was

    "The people of that time weren't bad, they just were afraid of contracting leprosy. Jesus did not have that fear, as he would not contract leprosy. But he did heal the man out of love, and he showed him dignity."

    So I tried to make it fit, but the conductor still looked pretty mad.

    BF

  • purplesofa
    purplesofa
    The bacteria Microbacterum leprae causes leprosy also called Hansen's Disease.

    A person cannot contract Hansen's Disease unless he or she is genetically susceptible to the infection. More than 90% of the human population is naturally resistant to infection.

    For those who are susceptible to infection; it is believed they acquired the disease by inhaling infected respiratory droplets spread from another infected person.

    While this may be one way in which leprosy is spread, more than 50 percent of the people who develop leprosy have no confirmed contact with another infected person.

    Factors that influence how leprosy is spread include:

    * Environmental conditions and living standards
    * The degree of susceptibility of the person
    * The extent of exposure.

  • BluesBrother
    BluesBrother

    Conductors in my experience these days, hate 'off the wall' comments that are not exactly in line with the thought of the paragraph. I believe they are not skilled enough to deal with them. My old Cong Servant would deal with that and weave it in - no problem.

    It was of course founded in the Jewish Law Scriptures that lepers had to live outside the community - because it was catching..

    BTW Congratulations for saying it. I am sure that is the one thing that the rest of them will remember from today's meeting

  • BonaFide
    BonaFide

    Thanks for info purplesofa, I think that the WT is saying though that many people of that time were hateful towards lepers, whereas reality was that they didnt want to contract the disease, right or wrong, that was why they avoided lepers. Unless the WT is right, and the people hated lepers because they were sick, not because of fear of transmission.

  • purplesofa
    purplesofa

    I would be scared too, to catch leprosy.

    I understand what your point is with the Watchtower.

    I saw a documentary about leprosy on NatGeo and I was surprised to find that families were living together, with some family members not ever contracting the disease. The docs could see them and touch them and not get it.

    Like alot of things that were going on in "Bible" times, people just did not know. Thank goodness for modern medicine.

    Leprosy Was Spread by Colonialism, Slave Trade

    Stefan Lovgren
    for National Geographic News
    May 12, 2005
    It is an infectious disease that dates back at least to biblical times, yet leprosy has puzzled scientists since the identification, in 1873, of the bacterium that causes it.

    Known for its disfiguring skin lesions and potentially debilitating nerve damage, leprosy, or Hansen's disease, is a very difficult disease to transmit. It also has a long incubation period, making it hard for a doctor to determine where a leprosy patient contracted the disease.

    But now a team of French scientists has discovered how the disease evolved and how it was spread across the continents by human migrations.

    The scientists found that leprosy infections were caused by a single bacterial clone, which spread—but barely mutated—for centuries. Such behavior is highly unusual.

    Researchers also found that leprosy probably originated in East Africa and not India, as previously thought. The disease was brought eastward and westward by colonialism and the slave trade, the scientists believe.

    "The bacterium has a highly stable genome and appears to have been spread between people by contact or the aerosol [airborne particles] route and dispersed around the world by human migrations," said Stewart Cole, a geneticist at the Pasteur Institute in Paris, France.

    Cole is a co-author of the study, which is reported this week in the academic journal Science.

    Slow Incubation

    For centuries leprosy was incurable and severely disfiguring. Lepers were usually shunned and sequestered in leper colonies.

    The disease produces lesions on the skin. The most severe form of leprosy produces large disfiguring nodules, or lumps. The disease can also cause nerve damage in the extremities, sensory loss in the skin, and muscle weakness.

    Although leprosy is easily curable by antibiotic therapy today, the disease is still common in many countries in the world, especially in tropical climates. About a hundred cases per year are diagnosed in the United States.
    An unusual aspect of leprosy infection is the disease's slow incubation period, which lasts several years.

    The bacterium is very difficult to study. Its genome is filled with damaged, nonfunctional genes, which may explain why it grows so slowly.

    Apart from humans, it afflicts only armadillos and the footpads of mice. Scientists cannot grow the bacterium in the laboratory.

    "Even if we could grow it on petri dishes, it would take 9 to 12 months to form a colony," Cole said.

    So instead Cole and his colleagues compared the genomes of seven strains of the bacterium taken from leprosy patients around the world. The scientists found very little variations between the strains. This, they say, suggests that there was a single clone at the origin of all cases of leprosy.

    "Their analysis … appears to explain some of what we know about the disease leprosy and the [source] organism that causes leprosy, namely the slow growth of the organism and progression of the disease," said Kenrad Nelson. Nelson is an epidemiologist and leprosy expert at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore, Maryland, and was not involved in the research.

    Slave Trade

    By analyzing very rare mutations in individual molecules in the bacterium, the scientists were able to trace how the disease spread over the course of human history.

    "By comparing the evolutionary scheme for [the bacterium] with the map of known human migrations, we found some striking parallels and differences," Cole said.

    Researchers previously believed that leprosy originated on the Indian subcontinent before being introduced to Europe by Greek soldiers returning from the India campaign of Alexander the Great.

    The new findings, however, indicate that the disease actually originated in East Africa—or perhaps the Middle East.

    The scientists say Europeans and North Africans spread the disease to West Africa. From there the slave trade brought it to the Caribbean, South America, and North America.

    Colonialism played a major part in the spread of leprosy, Cole said. "It is clear that Europeans introduced the disease to the Americas themselves and by slavery. Other human migrations in history almost certainly did the same thing."

    Erwin Schurr, a researcher at McGill University's Centre for the Study of Host Resistance in Montreal, Canada, said the new study's insights into leprosy's natural history were "extremely exciting."

    The results "provide critically important clues for an understanding of host-pathogen interaction in leprosy," he said. "Moreover, it will be highly interesting to contrast these findings with similar studies in tuberculosis that suggest a more genetically diverse pathogen pool."
  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW

    It is more likely than not,people were afraid of lepers..Having your Nose fall off and land in your Corn Flakes,is no way to start the day.....................Laughing Mutley...OUTLAW

  • Mary
    Mary

    I remember when Diana first shook the hand of a leper. Something you'd never see the Governing Body members do unless there was some financial gain to it for them.

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