by cameo-d 33 Replies latest watchtower bible
Mustang:The sacrifices were fine: the money changers selling lame animals at extortionate prices weren't.
LOL.
So Jesus had a temper tantrum because the prices were too high?
Does WT teach that Jesus was enraged because of dirty chicken feathers?
That's one of the funniest things I have ever read. Was that in a WT mag? What a classic!
So Jesus had a temper tantrum because the prices were too high?
You still don't get it: lame animals were being sold. Only top line animals were to be used, because it was for God, not some stewpot. This was cheating God and saying you were great, parading your righteousness among men. It is one thing to charge stiff prices for Grade A, but for reject? And the poor were doing this because of sincerity of worship. The poor were willing to make the sacrifice, regardless of cost; but they should have been treated with respect, as well as God should have been respected.
The high prices were just insult to injury: the point is the sacrilege.
Does WT teach that Jesus was enraged because of dirty chicken feathers?
The chicken thing was extra-Biblical. If I recall the explanations it was post-dated against the Bbile. It was never mentioned in the Bible, at all. I'm not at all sure that the chicken was even "clean" or acceptable as a sacrifice. Have you ever watched a chicken eat in a barnyard? A lot of what was considered acceptable in an animal had to do with their eating habits and "relative clenliness". Doves were the bird that I recall being acceptable.
"sincerity of worship": this is something that you need to give deep consideration to. You find many of us here casting stones at JW's; but we still respect their sincerity of worship. We were there once; and we are generally somewhere in the "sincerity of worship" standard today, whatever that worship may consist of, now. I'm going to do a stretch here and say that even our Atheist posters are sincere in their worship (or lack thereof).
You are missing great expanses of meaning here, whiolesale.
Mustang
First of all, Jesus opposed the blood sacrifices and what was being preached in the temples.Wrong: this was Judaic Law and it was the "type", precursor or the thing that came before the ultimate real goal. And Jesus' sacrifice was the ultimate, real goal; Jesus of course knew this. Jesus was the fulfillment of the animal sacrifices.
The sacrifices were fine: the money changers selling lame animals at extortionate prices weren't.
What was even more interesting was the fact that the only writings contemporary to the times of early Christianity, which mention it specifically, remark that it is a "vile superstition." Yet, what we have as Christianity today, is nothing more or less than the same religious practices of the peoples who branded it a "vile superstition." Obviously something very strange happened between the times of the early Christians, and the times in which Christianity became the established religion. And whatever it was that happened, changed Christianity from a "vile superstition" to an acceptable, all-inclusive, monotheistic device. In short, it seems evident that "true Christianity" has completely disappeared from the world stage and those individuals who call themselves Christian are not, in fact, Christians in the original sense of the word by any stretch of the imagination.
The question that comes to mind is: what would the peoples of that time have considered a "vile superstition," when one is aware of what they considered normal religious practice? The only thing that seemed to fit the bill, so to say, is the possibility that whoever was the figure around which the Jesus legend was wrapped, was teaching that the "God of this world" was an "evil magician." Not only that, but that he probably suggested that man is the manifestation of God, and all creation is the "body of God," and that there was no point in praying to an "external god" at all. Now that would have set just about everybody back then on fire! To suggest that sacrifice to the gods, that appeasing the gods, that honoring the gods, that praying to the gods, that expecting to be saved by or cleansed from sin by any of the gods, was a waste of time would have been absolute heresy to all of the many religions! For them, such an idea, and only such an idea, would have been most definitely a "vile superstition."
http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/irkutsk2.htm
People need to realize Jesus died and thats it.....get over it!
