the intellectual laziness in jh, ks & follo...

by elke 61 Replies latest jw friends

  • Abaddon
    Abaddon

    Erich, this will be my last reply to you unless I get very bored and have nothing better to do. You are a waste of bandwidth. I will only revise this opinion if you stop your empty posturing and give us something more than vauge statements.

    My answer to your question is easy. NONE. My lack of belief in god is a formative thing, not something I got out of any one book.

    You seem to be a summative person; you find something that supports to one extent or the other your belief, and cite that as your reason, when in fact you might be supporting a bad arguement (like elke used here), an irrelavancy (some other bloke believing in god), or misrepresenting your source. This would explain your unwillingness to actually post why you think what you think.

    Click on the icon under my name that allows you to view posts I have made. If you are not sure which one does it, hover your mouse over the icons and their function will appear after a moment.

    There are many appertaining to the paucity of proof for the theory of god. A good example containing the logical arguement for god not existing is to be found in http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=16693&site=3

    I don't believe in god because there is no evidence, and because logically there should be. But read the post. I wouldn't want you looking silly by missing an element of the arguement when you, if you respond.

    So remember, no more replies unless you reply properly, okay?

    Oh, and thanks for the compliment

    I am pretty, however, I'm a boy... and anyone who thinks I look like a girl is either taking the piss or in need of glasses.

    FunkyD; just a quick line to say I appreciate your posts - I also like your signature, another fave quote of mine by Voltaire is "I object to what you say but will defend to the death your right to say it". I don't suppose you know what book it's from? I can't recall it, but I'm pretty sure it's not Candide.

    People living in glass paradigms shouldn't throw stones...

  • funkyderek
    funkyderek
    FunkyD; just a quick line to say I appreciate your posts - I also like your signature, another fave quote of mine by Voltaire is "I object to what you say but will defend to the death your right to say it". I don't suppose you know what book it's from? I can't recall it, but I'm pretty sure it's not Candide.

    Thanks Abaddon, the appreciation is mutual. I'm not sure where my Voltaire quote is from originally. Yours seems to be a paraphrase by a later author - see http://public.logica.com/~stepneys/cyc/l/liberty.htm
    (Erich, note the quoting of a source. Easy, isn't it?)

    --
    Those who can induce you to believe absurdities can induce you to commit attrocities - Voltaire

  • spacegirl
    spacegirl

    Elke

    I think you are way out of your league here. It doesn't matter how long you spend trying to prove God exists or going around saying that other people are stupid for not agreeing with you.

    It all comes down to one thing in the end:

    Your shit still stinks like all the rest of us.

  • TR
    TR

    MAN! No wonder JW's rarely if ever come to this forum with good arguments for God's existance, let alone proving the WTS is in charge.

    I sort of feel sorry for Elke and Erich, for so soundly are their arguments trashed. Makes me wonder yet again why they hang on. Well, I guess there's no universal rule that says we can't believe in nonsense.

    TR

    I'm gonna make mince meat outta that Osama!

  • Tina
    Tina

    Speaking of no valid arguement from Erich.......don't expect one.He 's not capable of it, as his oh so cutting edge and insightful one to me in another thread was,"say Hi to Mussolini for me'......
    I laffed at your outrageous claim there and now here.lololol

    Keep your ethnic slurs mein liebchen Erich. Responses like that are typical of those with no substantial,reasonable data to support their outrageous claims,lololol.....you do give me a laugh tho.T

    Vive Bene
    Spesso L'amore
    Di Risata Molto!!!

  • Erich
    Erich

    Hi Tina,

    You were just that one I'he missed in this theater...

    I know you have got an extremely high IQ (more than 180, perhaps more than 200; Einstein was an idiot compared to you...), so please tell us how to prove the non-existence of God.

    No, no, not the existence. That's too easy. You should prove the NON-existance by using scientific literature and publications. I think, you've got time enough to do so - please come on!

  • Abaddon
    Abaddon

    FunkyD; thanxs for the info, a riddle solved! It explains why downloading and searching his books for the phrase revealed NOTHING.

    A bit like the search for god really...

    Seem elke is smarter than Erich; she's run off. Bok bok bok... bloody theists...

    Elrich; Do you really think people miss the fact you have not advanced one fact or proved one thing or refuted one arguement in anyway? And you act like you're clever for asking a question that is impossible to answer, as it is equally impossible to prove the non-existence of my invisable stealth pet pheonix as it is to prove the non-existence of your invisable stealth god. I am very sorry, I just cannot take you seriously.

    Hey, I only live in Holland; open your window and hear me laugh...

    Are you afraid to try the logic arguements I mentioned, or is your summative mindform incapable of original thought?

    (Yup, I have nothing to do, it's the Dutch 'Sinter Klass' today, and everyone's gone home early, and I have to stay... eleven more minutes... )

    People living in glass paradigms shouldn't throw stones...

  • Seeker4
    Seeker4

    I've really enjoyed this discussion. Abaddon, well done as always.

    And Elke, I have to tell you straight up that a post that intends to attack "intellectual laziness" in others should not be filled with spelling and grammatical errors, nor should it be so poorly put together and so obviously unedited. If English is not your native tongue, I apologize in advance. If it is - shame on you!

    And Tina - 180-200 IQ, eh!?! Beauty AND brains. NICE combination.
    S4

  • ashitaka
    ashitaka

    Tina!!!! You saucy professor you!!!!

    Hey abaddon, i agree. FUNNY STATEMENT: it's not knowledge you need, just faith(like you said, 'theists' *sigh*)........hahaha.....which means, that you need no physical or historical evidence for God to exist. Revisionist History, I think it is called. Earthquakes could happen and destroy a city, and people could attribute it to their God. Floods, hell that was God too. Death. Must be God.

    I think humanity can't stand questions and wants an answer, no matter what it is. Even if the answer is more elusive than the air.

    ashi

  • Farkel
    Farkel

    Thanks for your semi-annual intellectual diarrhea, Elke.

    Erich,

    : so please tell us how to prove the non-existence of God.

    : No, no, not the existence. That's too easy. You should prove the NON-existance by using scientific literature and publications.

    What an idiot you are. Believers make the claim God exists. The burden of proof is upon them. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Where is it?

    Someone who doesn't believe doesn't have to make any claim whatsoever. It is the believer who makes the assertion God exists, not the disbeliever, and the one making the assertion is ALWAYS the one required to produce the proof.

    I disbelieve that there are herds of unicorns roaming around on the sun, and I'll be damned if I'm going to take one second of my time to prove why.

    Farkel

    "I didn't mean what I meant."

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