JW's and Others Take Heed - Child Abuse is Masked Behind Respectability

by flipper 30 Replies latest watchtower child-abuse

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  orangefatcat

  I can see the point your making.

  The fact that he molested the young boy doesn't make him gay it makes him a pedophile. This 17 year old had been ganged raped when he was six years old when he was coming home from school one day. He would come home through the woods and I guess that is where it occoured, I only know this because when he was with the psychiatrist he told him this, his mother and father never knew this before he was terrified to tell them, perhaps the boys threatened him and his family. His parents found out after he had seen the psychaitrist.

  But also his doctor asked him if his best buddy who was and is still (my son) did anything ever happen sexually between the two of them. The young friend said No to the doctor, that my son never ever even knew he had tendancies towards the male gender or toward young boys. My son was always crazy about girls. When my son was five years old he bought a deck of cards with naked girls on them and he told the store keep he had his mom's permission to buy them. What a brat.

  I know that gays are not pedophiles, maybe some but not a high incidence. whereas hetrosexuals are more so pedophiles.

  Sorry if I offended anyone with my comments.

  Orangefatcat. stop putting your foot in your mouth eat pizza instead.
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  flipper

  ORANGEFATCAT- No harm done. Thanks for the clarification. I was not aware that the 17 year old you were describing had been sexually gang attacked when he was 6 years old. That's awful ! Doesn't excuse what he did to the little boy himself ; however it does clear up some things in your story - namely that victims of abuse often abuse others when they come of age to do so . It's a very sad chain that takes dilligence on the part of concerned family members to break in order to prevent it from happening again - otherwise the conduct of abusing others gets passed on from generation to generation. Somebody has to be courageous enough to stop the trend
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  avishai

  >>>>But we learnt never ever to trust our children with anyone. They are not permitted to stay at anyone's house unless we are there and our daughter is permitted to play at girl friend's houses ONLY if they have no brothers, their father is not present and we are in constant phone communication.<<<<
  
  That's absurd. Women can and do abuse, and molest children. Basing it strictly on gender rather than quality of supervision is just paranoid.
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  flipper

  AVISHAI- Very true point you make. Females can and have been guilty of child abuse as well . Just because there are no males in a household - doesn't mean abuse doesn't happen
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  ex-nj-jw

  I just found out tonight that one of the teen girls I mentor has been being abused by her paternal grandfather for a couple of months. She's 13 years old, usually very outgoing and happy and lately she's been very withdrawn. I reported it to my superior and we both casually tried talking to her, we had a group session about it trying to encourage her to talk to us privately or any of the girls for that matter last week.

  Tonight she pulled me aside and told me she had a secret and was scared about what would happen if she told. I reassured her that it would be ok to tell especially if someone was hurting her, that we couldn't protect her if she didn't tell. Well she let it all out so fast It almost knocked me over! We called her mom down to the center and she immediately call the police! We had barely finished talking to her and she already had her phone and was dialing.

  I asked her to call me tomorrow to let me know how things are going. This little girl is gonna need lots of love, support and help. I'm glad she has a mom that not only believes her but took immediate action. That had to mean so much to her knowing that her mom believed her. That was her biggest fear that no one would believe her.

  By the way the grandfather is a big shot in a local church. I hope they hang him by his balls!

  nj
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  flipper

  EX-NJ-JW- I am so sorry to hear about your young friend's abuse. It just makes me so mad that idiot " churchy type people " who masquerade as allegedly " righteous " pull this type of crime on young people ! Pisses me off no end ! I am so glad you were there for her AND that her mother believed her and supported her, thus calling the police. If only more young people's parents would believe them when reporting being sexually abused - perhaps less of it would go on and be nipped in the bud ! Thanks for the experience. Good for you sis that you are supporting her ! Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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  ex-nj-jw

  Yeah flipper, some of these kids just make me so sad, well not the kids but their situations. I've raised 3 kids and I could never imagine them having to go through some of the things these kids have to deal with.

  Mentoring is great and I highly recommend it to anyone who can. Sometimes all these kids need is a hug and to know that someone cares about them.

  nj
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  flipper

  EX-NJ -JW - That is so great you are mentoring young ones and helping out that way. It is so sad some of the stories we hear of how young people are so abused. As my initial post indicates - we see this abuse come out in the news here in California all the time. My wife and I have been in contact with a lurking JW ( elder's wife ) who is trying to protect children from pedophiles in her congregation and who is trying to get the elders to get off their butts to not let this guy work with young people in the field service. Good luck with that, eh ?

  I told my wife that if my young adult witness daughters ( early 20's ) I am going to be proactive and share again this information with them about child abuse and how they need to protect their children from it- because the elders will not. Keep up the good work sis ! We can all be a voice for the children in our own areas
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  Gill

  I don't doubt for one moment that women are capable of abuse BUT there ARE more male sexual abusers than female and the prison system and population of the prison system proves that. Therefore your chances of abuse are higher with a male than a female. Therefore NOT absurd......unless you want it to be.

  I'd rather trust my child to a woman than a man due to the probablity and chances of risk.
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  flipper

  GILL- Good point you make. There are more male sex abusers than female sex abusers as you said. Although perversion is no respecter of gender. But true, I' d say if I was a betting man - most of the 23,000 child molesters on the WT society database are probably male . And so all the more reason to keep the children protected and watch out for creeps