by bonnzo 40 Replies latest jw friends
Of course there is Jeremy, you have to know, so you can preach and convert every living damn thing you see.
You cannot know about something that is not. God is not. Therefore you cannot know it. Therefore, you cannot preach and cannot convert every living damn thing you see.
But you can have an opinion about something that is not. But that doesn't convert everyone but you can preach!
Cheers
Borgia
A lecture by Richard Dawkins
there are also sub-links embedded in the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iwK1xSUlFI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueR_eR9Smmo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuWK3RLEzuA&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nq_WmGMHPYo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3n92__5_fg&feature=related
The question should be asked, what has improved humanity's experience in life throughout are own history, spiritualism, mythology, theology, religious dogma structured solely on
speculative interpretation. or the endeavor of mankind to explore and discover the actual world we live with a mindset of rational realism ?
My theory is that man is better sitting in the driver seat rather than a god and it might just be because we are human and they are not !
I don't know whether god is out there or not. If he is, there may or may not be any sort of afterlife and we may never know, even in death.
I believe in evolution. It makes sense once I thought about it. Maybe it was started by God. I don't know. But I know it is happening.
Let's say God is out there and he wants us to be good humans. What would make him more proud of one of us?
A guy who studies the Bible (or whatever faith is God's preference) and follows the rules his faith has taught him?
A guy who does not believe in God, but is a humanist. He just knows that it's wrong to steal, wrong to cheat, and in general, knows good from bad and tries to be good.
I think God would have a certain amount of pride that his creation learned to do what He wanted them to by himself without having to study a book of rules. I know I would just beam if my children were like this. But on the other hand, this man God's proud of doesn't believe in him. As a parent, I would feel hurt if my kids didn't believe in me. But then again, if I was an absentee dad who never showed up to say hi and make it plain and clear that I exist, I guess I could understand why they felt that way.
I guess if I compare God to being a father, I would want my kids to go out and enjoy life. I wouldn't want them to always be studying my rules and wondering what I'd want them to do. I'd want them to develop their own moral sense of right and wrong and apply that in living. I'd expect visits and/or calls from them, but I wouldn't want them to be constantly calling, several times a day. I'd want them to get a life.
By the way, I just started reading the God Delusion as well.
Jws~
That was a great post!
there may or may not be any sort of afterlife and we may never know, even in death.
What kind of afterlife would we not find out about upon death?
If you die, and you fail to learn or experiencing anything ever again, then there is no "afterlife", by definition. (for you who died, at least.)
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There is a God, IMO.
But no single religion can claim some kind of "exclusive rights" to God, as many do.
I have debated this thing a thousand times with atheists now on many places.
My beliefs are based on thorough examinations and an honest look at facts and evidence as they are.
I respect anybody that has different views as well. I believe they call that tolerance.
Vinny
"When I realized I could never love and worship a being that would put me to death if I didn't worship him..."
Therefore, if you choose not to worship Him, which He doesn't force anyone to do so, but the fact is, you will be alive forever, so He has to put you "somewhere."
He would rather "put you" with Himself in glory for all eternity, but since you don't want that, then He will abide by our wishes and "put you" somewhere else.
God is a gentleman, contrary to popular opinion.
God is a gentleman, contrary to popular opinion...
...and his autobiography
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hehe ink. I don't mind a God with a backbone.
homerovah....thank you soooo much for the dawkins lecture...it was FAR more interesting than the boring-ass school and service meeting i had to endure tonight. if you have more or links to, please post or pm me and i'll give you my email address. i'd give dawkins a "G" on all aspects of his "talk"!!!!
