Theists who have no issues with biological evolution - lame or not?

by nicolaou 56 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  drwtsn32

  Mr M,

  I think you're completely wrong to say that the current theory of gravity "doesn't even come close". It actually explains gravity perfectly with the only exception being at the quantum level.

  In 50, 100, 2000 years of course our theories will be more advanced, but like I said in my previous post, most of the solid theories we have today will not be completely tossed out for new ones. New, more advanced theories will most likely incorporate large portions of existing theories in them.

  And to stay more on topic, the theory of Evolution is one helluva solid theory. You're not going to see it be replaced by anythign radically different. Remember, the theory of Evolution contains proven facts of Evolution: genetic change over time. A new theory that explains the diversity of life would have to contain that fact, so it's not going to be something radically different from Evolution as we know it.
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  Mr. Majestic

  Well I will have to counter in my disagreement with you on gravity as I don’t see that it explains things perfectly at all. But like I said, that is for another tread at an other time….

  And to stay more on topic, the theory of Evolution is one helluva solid theory. You're not going to see it be replaced by anythign radically different. Remember, the theory of Evolution contains proven facts of Evolution: genetic change over time. A new theory that explains the diversity of life would have to contain that fact, so it's not going to be something radically different from Evolution as we know it.

  Just to say that I have not made reference to the theory of evolution at all in my posts. My responses are to do with the ‘first cause’.
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  BurnTheShips

  Well I will have to counter in my disagreement with you on gravity as I don’t see that it explains things perfectly at all.

  What do our current theories of gravity have that are deficient? They explain the behavior of bodies very well. They have predicitive value, we can place a spaceprobe in orbit around another planet with great accuracy. Einstein's theory predicted gravity-related phenomena such as time dilation and gravitational lensing that had not even been observed yet.

  BTS
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  Mr. Majestic

  Honestly Burn, it would really not be fair to talk about gravity on this thread. I would be more than happy to comment on a thread specifically about that topic matter another time. But this thread is not to do with gravity. I used it as an example.

  But now keeping the thread on topic, how about a comment on the quote below:-

  I don’t see that it is a bad objection Burn. The conditions of the lab would have to be perfect to initiate this experiment in the first place. To find those factors in the universe with all of the elements for life to begin would be quite a task. In fact, even if you put a single cell experiment into the earths environment now, it would die, and you can’t get anymore of a perfect environment for life to thrive than the earth as it is.

  The work involved to bring about the perfect conditions would be quite an undertaking, and the fact that they have not yet worked out how to recreate that first accident shows the odds of probability. If they were to recreate life, with all of the work that would be needed and the perfect environment that they would have to ‘create’, and then they turn around and claim that it ‘just happened by chance’ I think that a lot of people would see the flaw in that claim…??

  This was the point I was making..
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  Mr. Majestic

  Oops! I don't know what happened there. The comment referred to was my post No. 775
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  BurnTheShips

  Mr. Majestic:

  I don’t see that it is a bad objection Burn. The conditions of the lab would have to be perfect to initiate this experiment in the first place.

  What is perfect? In a big enough domain, you will find a place where conditions are "just right." Our planet is a good example, with a temperature and atmpospheric pressure that permits liquid water, it can support life of our kind. Pretty perfect, especially considering the scarcity of liquid h2o "out there." Maybe the earth is a lab experiment also?

  BTS
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  Hope4Others

  How to use the quote box

  which I can't in fire fox....grrr anyways it is under the drop box styles.....