deaden your body member(s)?...jw wifes answer...many jw questions too

by oompa 31 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • oompa
    oompa

    so we talked briefly by phone after she read this email/letter, and we talked about the masturbation point and married sex stuff....i asked what were the biblical reasons for FDS teachings....she said for masturbation it was "deaden therefor your body members"....i said that did not mention masturbations....then it hit me.....crap....masturbation is HOW you deaden your body members!!!......esp as a kid....your all excited (horny)....so how do you deaden it?....the answer is obvious.........oompa

    Dear wife, please read all of this letter. The questions I ask are not questions I would have pondered at 16 years old, and maybe you have wondered about some of these few questions as well. If someone called at my door and I started studying with them, I would now need answers to some of these questions before getting baptized. It would take you time and effort to do the research to answer these questions, but if you research the m with no preconceived notion as to the answer, you may find the result of the research interesting. Especially research on how to arrive at 1914 using only the Bible, and why the 144,000 is considered a literal number. Unfortunately there are many other questions I have that are minor, and some that are big as you will see as you read my questions, and they are sincere questions. For years I tried not to listen to my doubts and just put these issues on the back shelf and tried not to think about them. It bothers me that some things seem to go way “beyond what is written”…little things like:

    1. Why does the FDS (Faithful and Discreet Slave) care about men’s facial hair? Jews all had beards, Russell and his early brothers all had beards…..beards are VERY normal in USA society, and not considered part of any Hippy movement, yet if brothers grow one, they can have no privileges in the hall and can’ give talks. Is this hatred of facial hair Biblical.
    2. When it is freezing cold outside, and sister go in service or to meetings, why in the world can’t women wear nice warm pant suits like Hillary Clinton and other professional women wear everyday? Why does the FDS control nice dress that is modest and require only dresses on stage and in the ministry? What is the Biblical reason for this?
    3. Why are the anniversaries of our children being born, (birthdays) forbidden to be celebrated when there is absolutely noting in the Bible that forbids this? Like our wedding day, our children’s birth is one of the happiest days of our life, so why can’t we celebrate that day while we can celebrate our wedding anniversary? What is the Biblical reason for this position?
    4. Why is higher education nearly condemned by the FDS? Luke was a doctor and the Society actually pays for some brothers at Bethel to go to Law School and be WT Lawyers. Is there a Biblical reason for the FDS to discourage attending college, even if the youth is living at home instead of on campus. High School is full of bad association, yet kids living at home and attending public school is not frowned upon. What is the Biblical reason for discouraging attending College?
    5. Why has the FDS spoken negatively about certain sex acts between a married couple? And include masturbation being wrong as well. Virtually every witness has done this and been made to feel so guilty. Psychologists and most of mankind consider masturbation very normal. None of the sex issues are ever mentioned in the Bible, yet some people were disfellowshipped and good marriages ended because of being told what was done in their bed? Did you know that for years sisters were not scripturally free to divorce and re-marry even if their husband was engaging in homosexuality and bestiality because the FDS defined adultery ONLY as the union of a man with another woman? Can you imagine a women being put in this position? , So what is the Biblical reason for these FDS teachings?
    6. Why did the FDS forbid vaccinations, organ transplants, and the use of blood fragments? Are they blood guilty for those that died due to these rules? Now all blood fragments are allowed and it is like a ham sandwich. We can’t eat the whole sandwich, but we can eat the ham separately, eat the cheese separately, and eat the bread separately. What is the Biblical reason for allowing blood fractions to be transfused into our bodies, when the scriptures say it is only to poured out on the ground?

    I love you XXXOOO!

    oompa.....

  • leavingwt
    leavingwt

    All good questions.

    I may have missed something. Are you two separated?

  • oompa
    oompa

    not yet....trying to find a way to live like this...i cant afford a divorce to a jw right now...not money....just too much sacrifice right now........oompa

  • purplesofa
    purplesofa

    Those are good questions, appealing to common sense on some of it, she has her work cut out for her to answer the questions.

    purps

  • BabaYaga
    BabaYaga

    These are seriously great questions, Oomps. This is a good list to have for my future reference!

    In the meantime, I sincerely wish you and your wife all the best. Love, strength, and wisdom to you both.

    Love,
    Baba.

  • Homerovah the Almighty
    Homerovah the Almighty

    Sounds like a letter of reason logic and intelligence with an appeal to commonsense,

    Well done

  • jeeprube
    jeeprube

    Great questions! My wife and I tried some similar questions with her mother, and we were able to have several polite conversations about it. We thought we were making progress, then she shared our conversations with her husband; end of story.

  • crapola
    crapola

    Oompa, I have asked the very same questions!!! It's crazy how when you ask the questions they look at you like you are an idiot. I was talking to mu mom just last night and she was on my case about meetings and how I'd surely die at the big A and I asked her about the blood fraction deal. She could'nt answer me. Said she would have to do some research on it. Well, I still don't have her answer because there is'nt a logical one.

    It really makes me mad to know how screwed up her thoughts are but she says I'll die!Makes me crazy.

  • flipper
    flipper

    OOMPA- Very good points you make . Well written for your wife I feel. Keep us informed as to her reaction once you show her this. It should be interesting. Good luck ! Peace out, Mr. Flipper

  • Mrs. Fiorini
    Mrs. Fiorini

    These are great questions. I actually know a couple who left the WT because of questions like these. They couldn't help but notice that WT policies were a lot like the Pharisees that Jesus condemned. You might want to share with her some of the scriptures where Jesus criticized the Pharisees and all their petty little rules.

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