you and Farkel seem to have had a good laugh at the mention of the Trilateral Commission the Buildibergers and the Masons, and the use of the term New World Order are you saying that you don't think those organizations exist
Of course they exist, I never said they didn't. My father was a Freemason, when I was pre-school age I remember witnessing quite a few of their rituals (used to give me nightmares frankly). I believe David Rockefeller founded the Trilateral Commission, if I remember right. And I have no problem accepting that powerful, influential people, some in government, some not, belong to that organization and others. But I do not believe they "rule the world", or that they lift a finger and 9/11 happens and then is subsequently covered over.
For folks to believe the CIA murdered foreign heads of state or influenced the internal workings of countries such as Australia in the mid-70s, they needed to be shown proof. It is the same here. If the alternative media makes the allegations, then back it up. It's difficult for me to believe evidence leaks in every other story but not this one.
And if I offended you regarding my remarks about Alex Jones or David Icke, I'm sorry but I have no respect for them whatsoever. They are hacks, out for their own self-interest, interested only in lining their pockets, increasing their fame and influence. Just my opinion and we all know what that's worth.
With all due respect to you when I mentioned Alex Jones in typical anti-conspircy fashion you went after the messenger and ignored the message, he said the 'London Financial Times' said that the Globalists have stated that they are bringing in Global Government. Hell, Obama was just in London talking about Global Currancney, and Global Banking Systems this as a result of the Financial Crisis created by Wall Steet Bankers none of this originates with the US voters. Congress isn't even given time to read the bills. The Globalists are calling the shots right now in our Government, and as I said before we went into Iraq and Afganistan without a declaration of War first from Congress, it's the UN organization pushing us, that's Globalism
I've said many times I do believe in conspiracies, but I rather naively want proof before I accept them. I believe the Iraq War was the result of a conspiracy, Cheney/Rumsfield, et al. manipulating data to get what they wanted -- a war. That is a conspiracy. The Iraq War will go down as one of the most foolish, wasteful decisions this country made besides the Vietnam War.
Yes the world today is very different than it was 100 years ago. It is a global economy. Borders don't mean nearly as much as they used to. But again, that doesn't mean that a handful of people are pulling the world's strings, at least not in the sense of some behind-the-scenes people. The leaders of the top 8 (9 if you include China) lead the advanced countries, but that's a long, long, long way into saying they planned, ordered, executed and covered up 9/11.
The more I've read about 9/11 the more I'm convinced there was a conspiracy. It involved religious fanatics in Afghanistan planning an attack, then sending 20 religious fanatics sent to America to train, one wimped out, and the other 19 flew (or tried to in the case of United 93) jets into WTC and the Pentagon. That is a conspiracy.
And if there were elements in the American government helping al-Qaeda, Cheney and Rumsfeld would have wanted to expose them. Why? Just so they could take away more civil liberties, beat the war drums more. Can you imagine the response? It would have been McCarthy paranoia all over again. But that didn't happen because there was no one in the U.S. government helping al-Qaeda.
The physical evidence from 9/11 speaks so loud for the official story I can't hear conspiracy talk.
Remember the Constitution says Congress is suppose to declare War first, well that hasn't happened since WWII. It's the Globalists pushing us. Roosevelt went into office promising to stay out of WWII but then did a 180 after Pearl Harbor, but I have read that we had the Japanese's Secret Codes already broken, so we knew their planes were coming, but our military was told to stand down. There was a little privately owned group kept out of the main stream media called the Council on Foreign Relations back then whispering in Roosevelt's ear prior to Pearl Harbor, I heard they said Mr. Rockefeller and his chums in Europe want you guys to get into this War
Boy you're all over the map here.
Yes Roosevelt did want to get involved in WWII, but he wanted to fight Nazi Germany, not Japan. Even after declaration of war, 75% of the U.S. resources went to Europe, not the Pacific. Which is one reason the war in the Pacific lasted so long. If the situation were reversed, and the majority of resources, manpower, etc. were sent to fight Japan that theater would been over much, much earlier. And, in point of fact, that is a good argument against behind-the-scenes manipulation by Roosevelt or the Council on Foreign Relations or whomever. It would have made much more sense for "them" to manipulate something against Nazi Germany rather than Japan. If Hitler had not foolishly declared war on the U.S., Roosevelt may not have been able to get Congress to agree to go to war in Europe.
It's been years since I read up on Pearl Harbor, but if memory serves there was a memo/telegram that was sent to Washington the morning of the attack warning of the threat of attack. As I recall it wasn't read until after the attack had begun, remember it was Sunday morning. Roosevelt did not know the Japanese were going to attack on Dec. 7. No one knew the fleet was there. Now there was quite a lot of talk about a pending invasion, most people did think Japan was likely to attack, but they did not know when or where. I'd have to look it up again, but I do believe they thought Japan would attack the Phillipines first and then Hawaii. But since I've got Alzheimers I'm not sure about that now.
As for pressure to enter the war, hell yeah there was more than just whispering from the Council on Foreign Relations. Churchill was doing everything he could to entice/pressure/cajole Roosevelt into entering the war. But the isolationist sentiment at the time was too strong and Roosevelt didn't dare. I don't believe for a second Roosevelt knew the Japanese were going to attack on Dec. 7 and then did nothing. However, for the sake of discussion, IF he did it would have made much, much more sense for him to manipulate something during the 1940 election. This was the first time in American history a President ran for a third term. It was unprecedented and there was no guarantee Roosevelt was going to win. IF he was being controlled by "them", America would have entered the war in 1940, not 1941.
In 1940 there was every reason to believe Germany would defeat Britain and conquer all of Europe. There was every reason to believe Japan would control all of east Asia, including India if it wanted. 1940 was the time for a behind-the-scenes manipulation, not Dec. 1941. But Dec. 1941, Britain had stood alone against Germany for over 2 years and Hitler was bogged down in Russia. The outcome was then up in the air as Hitler was facing 2 powerful foes, rather than just a Britain hanging on by its fingernails during the Blitz.
Are you saying it was a mistake for the U.S. to enter WWII?
Chris