by lurk3r 65 Replies latest jw friends
bts according to wiki there are two faces to kundalini
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kundalini
"When Kundalini Shakti is conceived as a goddess, then, when it rises to the head, it unites itself with the Supreme Being (Lord Shiva). The aspirant becomes engrossed in deep meditation and infinite bliss" |
this sounds more like christian bliss imo
I see that once dophman teamed up with a practitioner he was able to understand what was happening.
share away if you want to
Thank You, sincerely. I know that one of these days, I will. I'm a terrible typer and have quite a bit i would like to relate.
A couple of things in which Dolphman talks about, I can relate to (firsthand!) and thats extremely comforting. Much like coming out of being a JW, when you meet people that have had similar experiences, its nice to be able to reassure yourself, " Whew, I'm not the ONLY one who feels this way!".
One of the big things that I look upon this whole process and at the core REALLY wonder about, is when people use the word "spontaneous" with regards the whole Kundalini rising. As Cameo so eloquently related the "rising" to an erection, it can kind go a ways in illustrating my point. One may look at an erection, and in viewing, it would appear that it "spontaneously" stood up on its own. But, since we have more of a knowledge of how the body works, we KNOW there is more to it than just what meets the eye. You know what I mean? (IM SO SORRY...CAMEO STARTED IT!!)
I don't think practioners care what it is called
Quietly Everything your saying in the paragraph you wrote makes perfect sense, and I believe you are right. Being raised a dub though...makes all those "higher states" that much more intense,when your attaching already defined thoughts, on an undefined experience. Adding to the whole thing yet more, the name Jesus kinda plays in with a degree. Triple whammy now,and this name has a new meaning and I must view this accordingly. Once again it's outside of the "JW box of thought", forever impressing the words upon me, "ignorance is bliss."
BTS - what length did you go to try and understand your personal experience? sorry bout the feelings it left ya.
be careful what you ask for (even unwittingly)!
doof - Wiser words could not be spoken...but only cause i can relate. I have noticed that in my life, and beyond coincidence, the things I tell myself I am NOT going to do, come around somehow. I am very careful with the words "I would never"...even unwittingly. "never say never"...whoever it was that came up with that, had good reason to say it. Funny though that it doesnt work the same way when it comes to some things though. No matter how many times I say out loud, " I would never want someone else other than me to do my dishes", they are never cleaned when I wake up in the morning. ha
Nark - continued thanks.
lurk3r
"The aspirant becomes engrossed in deep meditation and infinite bliss"
Perhaps ones "infinite bliss" is anothers "sheer terror"? Perhaps like skydiving out of an airplane?
lurk3r
I thought it was evil spirits from dubdom taking over me to keep me from leaving. My wife says my face would contort and that I did not look like myself. I burned all my WT literature. I then walked into the part of the house where it would overcome me and I mastered the darkness and commanded it to leave. It then left. I think these dark things love to feed on our fear. I am only trying to explain it how it seemed to me at the time. What do I know? I have felt the bliss too.
Then last November I took a psychadelic for spiritual insight and saw the light and the darkness together, it was very "kundalini", and it seemed to me that light/dark were one and the same! My mind went back in time to when evil entered the world, at the Garden. It was OK! It was all supposed to happen! Everything was going to be fine! I felt such bliss and peace. I wanted to leave the world to be with God but realized the things that anchor me in it are my wife and son. I looked at them by the camp fire and realized how much I love them and that they are worth living this life for. I still don't understand all these things fully from the "upper consciousness." My "gut" does get it, but I don't know how to put it into words! Inexpressible things.
BTS
lukr
One of the big things that I look upon this whole process and at the core REALLY wonder about, is when people use the word "spontaneous" with regards the whole Kundalini rising. As Cameo so eloquently related the "rising" to an erection, it can kind go a ways in illustrating my point. One may look at an erection, and in viewing, it would appear that it "spontaneously" stood up on its own. But, since we have more of a knowledge of how the body works, we KNOW there is more to it than just what meets the eye. You know what I mean? (IM SO SORRY...CAMEO STARTED IT!!) |
no need to apologise -
I wish I could remember where I read something similar recently. It goes like this - humans and snakes adopting an upright stance/standing upright, erections, divine knowledge setting humans on a divine upward path - all go hand in hand.
Then too physical and spiritual orgasm can be described as being somewhat related imo. Spontaniety is inaccurately applied to both - lol.
This is like trying to read Carlos Castenada!
Anyway, I had an experience through "Chi-Gong". It was rather amazing.
I still question how it was possible to actually experience a tangible manifestation of this unseen energy force.
Maybe going too far with this could explain "spontaneous human combustion". (haha)
I do wonder what sort of electrical charges we put out.
As a matter of fact, I blew six light bulbs within 3 days a couple of weeks ago. Coincidence...or "something else"?
I always get static shocks from closing my car door....even in summer.
I do think these Kundalini experiences are possibly related to Reptilian DNA.
"Can a man take fire to his bosom and not be burned?"
As a matter of fact, I blew six light bulbs within 3 days a couple of weeks ago. Coincidence...or "something else"?
Perhaps it was "something else". I'll go with a power surge. However, if you had them in your hands at time, they lit up and THEN blew; it was definitely you. :p Were you peddling a bike at the time by chance?
Do you recall you first spiritual experience?
I still question how it was possible to actually experience a tangible manifestation of this unseen energy force.
Perhaps it was a Nephilimic trade off? You get a little bit, and so did they.
"possibly related to Reptilian DNA." - Would you care to put in context for me? Its kinda like the scripture you have quoted. Reading it stand alone, brings across a point open to interpretation. The context of the actual scripture, alters that. No offense, I have grown weary of drawing my own conclusions.
BTS - I thought it was evil spirits from dubdom taking over me to keep me from leaving. At what point did you dismiss this as an option? With regards the fear thing, I think your right. What in the world did your wife think while all this was going on?
Quietly - " spiritual orgasm". Do you think these come in multiples? :p Couldn't resist. But seriously, are you equating Kundalini with a "spiritual orgasm" of sorts? Or any spiritual experience for that matter? Help me along here. ty
edit: Along with this conversation, has anyone ever given any thought, or perhaps drawn a conclusion on what the "highs and lows" in life are all about?
lurk3r
Very interesting...never heard of a Kundalini Awakening.
"this is kundalini, and kundalini wants his hand back!"
Mad max
