Chalam.Poppers. Please, hold up.
Chalam - While I donlt know you, I respect your views immensely. I envy your faith that you posess within yourself. While I don't know you, I do know by your posts, and expressions of faith, as to why you feel the way you do. Not only yourself, but others here on this board too.I don't know that you read through this thread or not, but a few threads back, I did say that in the end, ALL of this Kundalini(I know not a better name for it as i can only go with similar experiences that others have had) brought me around to coming to the stark conclusion that your God, Christ, exists. Please don't judge...yet. That little story I have started relaying, is my very first experience EVER( to my knowledge) with regards to KNOWING, without a doubt and for myself, that there IS a spirit world. As much as it already apparent to you, by what the bible says, there is NOTHING that can substitute real life experiences. It brings about a more complete and better understanding than living on faith alone. Also Chalam, it is ONLY by the permission of God that these things happen, the bible makes that clear. Job was "afflicted", through the PERMISSION of God....and it as a direct result of this, that Job was made stronger, and he was able to see the error of his ways. I don't think this is open to interpretation either, but if you feel it is,please, lets us discuss it futher.
Also Chalam, it is with respect towards you as well that I would like to make an observation, about Jesus. I read the Book of John for the very first time the other night(well 3/4 of it) and really enjoyed it. The perception of Jesus, is very hum drum to most people these days. Fight it as you may, and I'm not saying you should, or even asking you to, but when Jesus talked with the lady from the well, he displayed some very "creepy" traits. I say that also with no disrespect towards Jesus either. He told that lady she had 5 previous husbands, and the reason she didn't have one now, was cause she currently wasn't married to the man. I don't care HOW loving a person is, but if someone did that to me, that I did not know, I think I would get freaked out. That woman did not run away, and she used his saying these things as a source of comfort. If i remember it correctly she was excited about it and told her friends. That would be referred to in this day and age as a psycic ability. Why did she not shrink away in fear? Please, do not think I am trying to be an ass, I'm just making abservations. i KNOW that your knowledge of the bible is greater than mine...but please don't go quoting me 100 scriptures to show me how wrong i am, I get the jist and would like to keep this more conversational if we could.
Also, on the surface Chalam, this site, IS NOT loving. One has to look past a lot of things before it can be seen.
Poppers - I enjoyed reading your defense. I love it when people are passionate about their beliefs, whatever they are, as long as it's grounded in some sort of truth. No, I am not even insinuating that aren't grounded in this regard, but I would love to chat about it a bit. Poppers - How do you KNOW, for a certainty that Kundalini is indeed "natural"? I dispute nothing you say in your posts, I would like to know how you, for yourself truly KNOW this. Would you please share? Mine was awakened, and if i was not observant to my surroundings, I would naturally assume that it came out of nowhere and that it was indeed natural. I am not familiar with kundalini in depth, and I am not trying to stir up a bees nest. I do know from reading that it "starts" often at the base of your spine. What causes it to start it is really at the root of my wondering. A sneeze is natural. Everyone does it. But something has to trigger it. "Spontaneous" is a word often used to describe the process too. Thanks for your input.
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