Hi I'm new here

by BloominMarvellous 71 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • VIII
    VIII

    Welcome!

    Sleeping, technically, is not wrong.

    Fornicating, that is different--by Elder in a Kingdom Hall standard. And your own.

    However, unless you want to tell the Elders, in great detail what you did, I would tell then to F-off. They are a group of dirty old men who will ask you to tell them step-by-step, detail-by-detail, exactly what you and your guy did. They seem to get off on the details.

    So, unless you are willing to give them a pornographers wet-dream of a detailed list, I would not tell them a thing and tell them it is none of their business.

    That is just my opinion. Experienced opinion.

  • Jack Burton
    Jack Burton

    Welcome to the forum.

    I'm sorry you're going through some tough times. Many of us here have gone through similar experiences, so this is a good place to be.

    It took me a while to really understand that there are no judgments here, feel free to speak your mind.

    You're too young to commit your life to a group that demands complete loyalty. There is a whole world out there full of great people, who will accept you for who you are, not with conditions. I think it's good to ask these questions before you dedicate your life to this cult. Even though you have a hard road ahead, it's so much easier to walk away before you get baptized.

    I was raised as a witness, and I really had no choice. The love bombing will stop eventually. There are sincere people in the organization, but remember, their acceptance of you is conditional, you need to follow the rules, no questions asked.

    Anyways, welcome, there is plenty of good advice and listening ears here.

  • awildflower
    awildflower

    I'm so sorry about your situation. But as was mentioned, it's a good thing your not baptized! Take the advice from this board, use this as your "out" from this org. Get out now while it's easy and then your spirituality will grow more than you even know right now. I would say to them, before they say it to you, that you want to remove yourself from the pubs list and have some time to think about what you want to do with your life. Then get out! Run! I'm not kidding, you may not understand entirely why people would tell you that, but you will eventually. You are young and have your whole life ahead of you. I had an experience with my unbaptized son as well and if I knew then what I know now it would have went completely different. You are not baptized, you still have the control! Just my opinion.

  • keyser soze
    keyser soze

    Welcome to the forum! No need to feel guilty for behaving like a 21 year old.

  • troubled mind
    troubled mind

    What do YOU want ??

    Do you still want to become a Jehovah's witness ?

    If yes ,then be prepared to be humiliated before a group of older men . They WILL ask embarrassing questions and will look for you to cry and weep into guilt ridden remorse . They want to know if you are truly repentant of your actions . The guilt you feel now is nothing to what they will put you through (the rest of your life ). If you have a descent group of elders it may go a little easier and they will encourage you to study an pray ect.ect. It really depends on the area you live and what kind of Elders are in your hall .

    However know this ....from someone who has been there done that, and raised three sons that also have survived youth : You are young and inexperienced in life . You will ,and did, make some unwise decisions ....learn from them and go on to do better next time . A measure of guilt is a good thing if it keeps us from making foolish choices ,HOWEVER the guilt heaped upon young ones in the organization is overboard and destructive in my opinion . Youth is a time for pushing the boundries and discovering what your personal values are ,it is a time of self awareness .

    Please don't allow them to smother you and destroy your inner self .

    There is much to be said about having good morals and a high standard of values ,but this is obtained as an individual learns and grows and should not be forced down their throat by others .

    So grow up some right now and make some big decisions for yourself : where do you want to go from here ,stand up on your own two feet and don't lean on these people to make life choices for you .

  • jwfacts
    jwfacts

    Hi and welcome.

    It is good you are coming to your senses before getting too involved. It is a good time to move on whilst you still have friends on the outside.

    I have a meeting with them on saturday

    Why bother. You are not baptised. All that will happen is you will be asked invasive questions and made to feel guilty over what you have done.

    If you stop going to meetings there will be a lot of gossip about how you were too weak to be a JW, but it will be easier than trying to leave after you have been baptised a few years and have lost all contact with friends that are not JW's.

  • BloominMarvellous
    BloominMarvellous

    This was the text i got from one of the elders

    Read Hebrews 12:7,11

    7It is for discipline YOU are enduring. God is dealing with YOU as with sons. For what son is he that a father does not discipline?

    11True, no discipline seems for the present to be joyous, but grievous; yet afterward to those who have been trained by it it yields peaceable fruit, namely, righteousness.

  • insearchoftruth
    insearchoftruth
    God is dealing with YOU as with sons

    GOD is dealing with you....not elders.

  • Mr. Majestic
    Mr. Majestic

    Wow….!!!

    Didn’t expect to see you on here. I’m really having a great day now…..Woohoo.....(explain more to you tomorrow as to why I’m having a great day today…)

    I am so sorry that you are feeling so bad. As others have said, there is no reason for you to be feeling so bad at the moment. Guilt is a thing that so many JW’s live with for years and is so terribly destructive. But I promise that in a few months you won’t be bothered by anything at all. You are just suffering the results of being near a high controlling cult. I can’t believe that you are being shunned at the moment, but to be honest with you, it is working to your favour. This is what will happen to you, and more so, if you do get baptised and make a mistake. But it does make you feel bad….. Hope you feel better soon......

    So much more I have to say to you, but just to ask you, pleeeease can I sit in with you in front of the elders….??? And feel free to bring your study conductor along as well. That is a person I would love to meet……..!!!

  • the research lady
    the research lady

    Hello! and welcome to the board. I see that so many have already given you good advice. Listen to those who know. I'd like to invite you to listen in to our conference call this Saturday May 23 at 7 p.m.EST. We host it every other week for all those who have been "touched by the tentacles of the Watchtower". It is a call that is listened to all over the world by people who are either active Jehovah's Witnesses or are now former Witnesses. Some of those who have been our guests are Dr. Jerry Bergman who wrote a book entitled "Jehovah's Witnesses and the problem of mental illness". Also, James Penton who wrote several books about Jehovah's Witnesses. Also, Barbara Anderson who worked at the Bethel headquarters and exposed the Watchtower's cover up of child abuse as well as many others. I think you'd find it very interesting. There is no charge for the call, just your normal calling rates apply. The number is (712) 432-8710 and the pin number is 9925. To listen to past recorded calls go to our website at www.sixscreensofthewatchtower.com When on home page scroll down to conference call and click the phone. I hope you can join us on Saturday. Keep watching on this board as we will be letting you know who is going to be our special guest this week. Take care and I wish you well.

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