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by BloominMarvellous 71 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  VIII

  The questions asked by the Elders (Sick Bastards) in my Cong when someone was believed to have "Fornicated" were:

  Did he touch your breasts?

  Did he rub your nipples?

  Did you enjoy it?

  Did he touch your vagina?

  Did he insert his fingers into your vagina?

  How many fingers did he insert into your vagina?

  Did he lick his fingers before inserting them into your vagina?

  Did you enjoy him inserting his licked fingers into your vagina?

  Did he lick your nipples?

  Did he kiss you?

  Did he kiss you with a French kiss?

  Did he put his mouth on your vagina?

  Did he insert his tongue into your vagina?

  And on and on and on.

  Now, if you want to answer questions only a rape Detective (Female) should be asking, go ahead, go and meet with the group of fat, bald, dirty old, white men.

  If you value your dignity, self-worth, privacy and overall, the fact that they are infact not RAPE detectives, Don't Go. And tell them what I said above.

  Just my opinion. My best friend and my sister were questioned by the Elders in our cong with those exact and worse questions. Then my mom. Then my aunt.

  VIII--my friends and relatives were all fornicators.

  edited to add: I can't make anymore posts until later today when my posting limit increases, so seeya!! I made my 10 fior the day!
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  mindmelda

  I hope you keep sexually safe and decide to have sex with someone because you want to express love for them and not just because you're lonely and depressed.

  I'm glad you have good friends who care about you and are helping you feel better.

  Think about how Jesus disciplined his disciples, never with harshness, but with love and forgiveness. Unfortunately, you rarely get that from JWs, who train the elders to be quite punishing and inflict as much guilt as possible over relatively minor mistakes.

  They're really punitive and harsh about "sexual misconduct", as it's the most difficult aspect of human behavior for them to control. They believe in micromanaging people's sex lives, even married people are told what kinds of sex to have and when. Buzzkilling sex is a big agenda for the WTS...they were originally an organization that totally encouraged celibacy, you know.

  But, that's one of the identifying traits of a cult...unnecessarily strict and invasive control over people's personal lives and choices.

  The Bible does not promote promiscuity, true, but that's for our own sakes as promiscuity is widely recognised as a sign of low self esteem and poor self image. But it doesn't stipulate overly harsh punishments and shunning for a perfectly normal sexual indulgence. That's the WTS idea of a good time, not God's.
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  mindmelda

  Man VII, I guess I knew that, but when you write out their interrogation tactics like that, it's just effing sick! Remember, this is procedure all spelled out by the WTS elder manuals.

  I bet they all have to run home and whack off after a committee meeting, it's JW porn for creepy old dudes. EW! *totally creeped out now*
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  jakes

  Welcome Bloomin

  You have come to the right place.

  jakes
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  Priest73

  I bet it looked more like this:

  7It is 4 discipline U R enduring. God is dealing w/ U as w/ sons. 4 what son is he that a father does not discipline?
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  AK - Jeff

  They will likely 'remove' you as an unbaptised publisher and make such an announcement. This will serve to publicly humiliate you - and many Jw's will not speak to you until you are 'readjusted'. You will be treated like soiled goods until they determine that you are repentant, no matter how you feel about it.

  I would just not show up - now or ever - if you are wishing to get out of the organization intact. Your 'friends' will not prove to be such if you never get 'back in good standing'.

  If on the other hand - you want to be Jw - then you have have to cow-tow and accept the 'discipline' that they dish out. You will be 'tainted' now - as nothing is truly confidential in that organization. The elders will talk - or at least any who know anything of the matter will gossip.

  Forget the guilt. People have sex. Period. You can determine your own position on that matter - but why let a group make it for you? Your parents, friends, and even your religion [if you have one] will play a part. But it should be your determination as you seek to find your values/morals in life. You may well agree that fornication is a sin. Fine. But what place is it for others to judge you, then say that it was God who did so. Bull.

  Good luck to you. Welcome to the forum.

  Jeff
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  Priest73

  Sorry Jeff, I know that I shouldn't, but this line made me giggle....

  You can determine your own position...
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  Barbie Doll

  Welcome to the Board, BloominMarvellous-----You have No reason to feel guilty, get away from JW's.

  Coachhanna----Welcome to the Board.
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  White Dove

  After reading that list, I can see now why they love to bust people and hold JC meetings. It's the only sexually exciting thing they get. Missionary positions with their wives get stale after a couple of times.
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  dinah

  Padre, you are incorrigible. (But I must admit I caught that too)

  You will be 'tainted' now - as nothing is truly confidential in that organization.

  true, very true.