Religious Fundamentalist Terrorist Strike Again? (page 10)

John Doe

I don't feel like reading this thread, but the title sounds provocative, so help me out here. Is it worth my time to read it?

John Doe

Not really

Just as I suspected. Carry on then!

BurnTheShips

No it is not because the law of the land says that it is not.

Does the national law determine what is right and wrong? The national law in one major European country said it was OK to kill people of a particular group a few decades ago. Does the fact that it was legal mean it was not murder?

Brocephus

beksbks you are probably correct I can be a big smug and verbose when debating but I was taught confidence in my arguments from an early age.

Back on topic. You said you feel far more "Generous" towars John Brown. They both essentially did the same thing. Can you please explain the difference to me? In John Brown's day it was the "law of the land" to own slaves. John Brown had no more of a "legal" right to shoot a slave holder or auctioneer than I would to kill someone for owning a dog or Ford. I am not sure if you condone John Brown's actions or you are just saying you can emphathize and see how he could think he had to take such drastic measures to stop something he felt was so wrong.

John Doe The first 2 pages of this thread suck and are full of trite platitudes and emotionalism. It took a while but I finally got people to start talking about their own thoughts and to stop parroting the pro-life or pro-choice mantras around page 3.

XJW4EVR

While I believe that the acts of this "Doctor" are utterly contemptable to me as a Christian, believe that this alleged murder is not only contemptable but wholly unscriptural. I pray that the full force of justice (up to and including the death penalty) will fall on the head of this alleged murderer. This person has acted contrary to every statement of Jesus recorded in the four Gospels, and all the writings in the rest of the New Testament. Unlike the founder of Islam, Jesus stated that his kingdom was not of this world, and as such should not utilize the violent tools of this world.

darth frosty

It took all of three post for this thread to get off track. The problem is 2fold. One, like the thread title states, this was a terrorist act. Two, that fact gets poo-poo'ed due to people's feelings about the issue.

Like elsewhere said:

Ironically, its the "God bless America, lets hunt terrorist" types, who are most likely to turn to terrorism to achieve their goals.

beksbks

Can you please explain the difference to me?

It all goes back to when life begins. There will never be agreement on this, so there is zero point in discussing it.

We certainly have many more avenues of getting our message out these days.

sammielee24

You sound familiar somehow.............

That's my thought...anybody support legalized right to death..or dignity in death..you know - having the right to kill yourself with support in cases of terminal illness? I fully support it...just like I support the right to have choices in medical procedures. sammieswife.

keyser soze

Keyser: When did this become about me? Did I shoot anyone?

You're the one who compared shooting abortion doctors with using deadly force to protect loved ones. If you condone one, but not the other, then such a comparison makes no logical sense. If you think that shooting doctors who perform abortions is in any way justified, then have the courage to come out and say it. You seem to be talking out of both sides of your mouth. You are laboring to show a gray area when there isn't any.

Both men are "wrong" and both men are "right". Both are extreme actions and on far ends of the moral/ethical spectrum. The debate is deeply complicated.

What utter bullshit. The cold-blooded killing of another human being is murder, and just plain wrong. There is no "right" in it, no matter what justification you may believe there to be. It isn't complicated at all.

And whether or not you believe abortion is murder, and therefore, also, wrong, is quite beside the point. One murder does not negate the other.

The willingness of some pro-lifers to rationalize the murder of this man speaks volumes as to how much they really value human life.

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