Religious Fundamentalist Terrorist Strike Again?

by Justitia Themis 129 Replies latest social current

  • GromitSK
    GromitSK

    Of course you think you are right! Why bother to put your points forward if you don't think you are right unless you are playing devil's advocate and I don't think you are. I was talking about legal or illegal not right or wrong. Murder is the unlawful taking of life therefore abortion is not murder according to law. You may feel the law is wrong and that it is murder but the fact is that it isn't at the moment. So it's not murder - by the way talking down to me doesn't make you look smart it just sounds like you are ranting.

    So we have agreed that abortion is legal. Murder is the unlawful taking of life therefore even if a foetus is a human life as you propose, taking it isn't murder. I agree that doesn't mean it is right. I presume you would agree that taking the life of a Doctor carrying out his lawful business is murder too?

    Assuming the poll is accurate 51% is a simple majority I agree, let's assume that this has been the case for a long while too (although I don't know whether it has or not). It leaves a significant minority opinion. The law is not there simply to enforce the majority view though as I am sure you would agree particularly on such personal matters. To be more precise then - there is not a significant majority in favour of banning abortion. If there was it would happen. Why isn't there if it is so clear that it is wrong?

    Whether a person believes that abortion is acceptable (at any point of development) is a moral decision at the moment. The law effectively allows people to make their own decisions on the matter. If people are religious their decision may be informed by that. If they aren't they may still take a moral view or they may not. Personally I think this is a sensible position unless you think a return to back-street abortions is acceptable.

    Your analogy with Income Tax is an interesting one. If people don't like the levels of taxation they can replace politicians with those who advocate lower taxes. Sometimes they do just that. At the end of the day though the electorate know that taxes are necessary, it is simply a question of the level of taxation and how the money is spent. Not really the same issue it is?

  • Robdar
    Robdar

    I feel sorry for this "Doctor's" family and his friends that had to witness this shooting at his church. But I really beleive he choose to put himself out there.He could have moved to Kansas City or a larger city and continued his work.

    To suggest the dr would have been safe in a big city is silly. We've had violence towards abortion doctors and the clinics here in Kansas City. These happened back in the 80's and early 90's. We still have protests outside the Planned Parenthood offices.

    This is the same area that gave us the "God hates fags church" Westboro Baptist I think.

    Nope, Westboro Baptist, home of Fred Phelps, is located in Topeka about 120 miles from Wichita.

    Your desire to blame the doctor for his own death is unbelievable.

  • dinah
    dinah

    Republican fundamentalists cant even see how they are being played. GAWD ALMIGHTY is fighting right with them. GAWD sure was greedy and fucked America right up our collective assholes.

    *Makes note to buy KY if the repubs get their shit together and off little boys' *ahem* members.

    The issues are not abortion or gay rights. The majority has decided. Roe V Wade has been on the book almost as long and I have. Not gonna change.

    Why don't we just concede the Christians a state so they will STFU and leave the rest of us alone? I would suggest Texas. Or you could move to Alabama, this state has gone to hell anyway. Another example of finding IGNORANT people and whipping up religious fervor.

  • GromitSK
    GromitSK

    Utah would be handy - though it's none of my business as a Brit it does seem a long way west in the US and far away from me and there's plenty of space.

  • dinah
    dinah

    Utah is it then!! Perfect! Get all the crazy bible thumping (*read* bible making up shit as they go along) people their own. They'll just stone each other to death while they laugh and take off with everyone's money cos God said so.

    Bonfire, anyone?

  • Robdar
    Robdar

    Bonfire, anyone?

    I thought we all agreed that violence is not the answer? You're a sweetheart and I am sure you did not mean it.

  • GromitSK
    GromitSK

    I don't think Dinah was suggesting bonfires more like it would be a natural progression. Unless I am mistaken.

  • keyser soze
    keyser soze

    I think the bonfire is just to burn the bodies that have been stoned to death.

  • dinah
    dinah

    I was thinking how the fundies would stone us or burn us at the stake.

    I have a Hershey bar in my pocket.

  • GromitSK
    GromitSK

    Exactly so.

Share this

Google+
Pinterest
Reddit