Reniaa:
Hamsterbait if you actually read this thread my point is I would admire them more if they were coming with a faith and preaching a faith then they are giving the person a new hope, It also makes there motives less about personal issues and more about God. But even Isaac who I know believes in God has admitted he is happy just to FREE them and so giving himself no responcibility to replace that faith with another.
Reniaa
My reply: I have said 3 or 4 times I direct toward Jesus. But the choice is the person's. Even if they do not accept the path of Jesus, it is happifying that they are free from the cult. The choice of whther they follow Jesus is not my resposiblilty.
Reniaa:
caliber if you read the greek scriptures they too emphasised the ungency they were counciled not to expect it too soon the thess tried to say it was happening they got eager (funnily enough they weren't condemned as false prophets) But the urgency is there and we are biblically counciled not to start thinking it will never happen.
2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.
Peter 3:14 (New International Version)
14 So then, dear friends, since you are looking forward to this, make every effort to be found spotless, blameless and at peace with him.
My reply: Agreed. Not n excuse to put God's name on the dates. That's called false prophecying.
Reniaa:
Yizuman you say I follow men but no I follow Gods arrangement, Jehovah-Jesus-leaders in men-flock this is the arrangement in the greek scriptures the point is I expect leaders in men whichever christian faith I was in.
Reniaa
My reply: Except the men you follow have a proven history of false prophecy, wrong teachings, and a lack of love- all of which are fruits of something quite contrary to Jesus.