by digderidoo 44 Replies latest jw friends
Please do not debate on this thread, i am asking for your personal experience of this
COULD WE PLEASE RESPECT THE THREAD POSTERS WISHES!? Please don't let Reniaa hijack this thread. It's what she wants, and your letting her. This is a thread regarding Jesus - not Reniaa and her childish games.
I have never accepted Jesus as God only as God's son as the bible always calls him.
Stop kicking against the goads Reniaa! Let go! The Lord is waiting to receive you! He has a place prepared specially for you.
BTS
When I was a child, growing up in the Trinity Episcopal Church of Morgan City, LA, I asked Mom what trinity meant. She told me. I went and read my new Bible, the Revised King James version. I could not find one place where Jesus calls himself God. I found he called himself Son of Man and Son of God. I was 9 years old. I came to the conclusion that Jesus was not God. I didn't know there was a debate over this amongst adults. I just wanted to know why our church was called Trinity Episcopal.
Now? I believe God, Jesus and The Holy Spirit or Ghost as we used to call him, are three separate individuals who are united as one God head, just as all of us 50 states of America are separate, but make up one country. If Jesus weren't separate from God, he would have had no need to pray to his father for help.
I have been through AA. I had the best 5 years of my life in AA.
I am an alcoholic.
Right now I am a drunk. I dont go to meetings.
I've been out of AA since about 1990. I've been pretty miserable drinking and not drinking
being a dry drunk.
When I worked AA. I believed in the God of my understanding which to me was the God
of the bible.
AA says to keep it simple, stupid.
I started feeling so good that I didnt need AA anymore. I started drinking again and
I started analyzing deep spiritual principles.
Not necessarily in that order.
Trying to determine who jesus and god are is like peeling an oninon
one layer after another until you have nothing and are mad and crazy.
Keep it simple stupid.
I dont mean to insult you. I am talking as much to myself.
AA works if you work it.
The God of your understanding can and will return you to sanity.
Just dont watch the Wizard of Oz and look behind the curtain to find out who
God/ the wizzard is.
Because once you destroy your god of AA theres no more life boats or rescue hellicopters,
that I know of.
I have found if you have an inquisitive inquiring mind and are not a zombie walking around
in a brain dead trance.
There are no answers to the big questions of life.
Which leaves me to believe we were designed not to know.
Just as we are designed to die.
Preprogrammed cell death.
Theres answers, but none that you can share with anyone else.
The closer you get to the truth the less agreement and more argument you will find.
(yes you asked for only one type of experience but this is a Jw site not a christendom one so I am treating this thread as the pro-Jw I am) if you want to promote a purely themed debate on one religion I recommend you use the forum for that religion.
Lol. Have a for promoting JW intolerance on an ExJW site. Maybe your God Jehovah will make an exception for you and not send you to Gehenna. And that's a HUGE maybe. ( I won't tell anyone that you don't really believe in Jehovah doing anything to anyone.)
COULD WE PLEASE RESPECT THE THREAD POSTERS WISHES!? Please don't let Reniaa hijack this thread. It's what she wants, and your letting her. This is a thread regarding Jesus - not Reniaa and her childish games.
I remember the BS (watchtower explanation) that I so dutifully gave to a householder about what Tomas so plainly said, namely Jesus being his Lord and his God. It was what I was taught, but I never felt quite right about implying Tomas was just so astonished that he said “oh my God”, as is the custom today.
I was with a very sharp MS on that day, and despite my own shortcomings, I just knew he could rebuff anything the householder could argue. This MS, Rudy, was also my final study conductor before I was baptized. Rudy had what I thought at the time was an in-depth Biblical knowledge base. He could ever-so-quickly jump the appropriate passage, like superman, just in the nick of time. In retrospect, what I mistakenly surmised as a demonstrable depth of knowledge was in fact not deep Biblical knowledge, but rather excellent skills in the fine art of Biblical hopscotch.
What I (we) didn’t count on was that this person we were talking to at the door was a seminary graduate. This person had an advanced college education, not only the history of the Bible and the doctrines, but had in fact mastered the very languages it was written in.
Needles to say, we both got a real education that day. Hopefully for someone such as our dear Reniia, she will never run into such a person. However if you do Reniia, I suggest cognitive dissonance to help you cope and put your world aright once again. It did wonders for Rudy and me, I sure it could help you too.
Freeman
This is a thread regarding Jesus - not Reniaa and her childish games.
Worth repeating.
Does fulfilling your own prophecy make you right?
