Jehovah's Written Witness (the Bible, including all correctly translated verses in every language) contains both what you call the Old Testament and the New Testament. As 2 Timothy 3:16-17, ALL Scripture is beneficial … Jehovah is mentioned in both OT and NT, and so is Jesus. As John 17:3, this means everlasting life: [our] taking in knowledge of [Jehovah] the only true God and the one [Jehovah] sent forth, Jesus Christ. JWs are properly known as Jehovah's Christian Witnesses. After all, without Jehovah allowing Christ to live as a human, none would have a valid hope for everlasting life. Any one who has witnessed the transformative power of the Bible in someone's life is a witness to the power of Jehovah's word in that one.
Ok have you ever been asked this question in regards to Isaiah 43:10 ?
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reniaa
and here is more on the oneness of YHWH/Jehovah in the hebrew site
That YHWH is a single individual and not a multiplicity of gods or personalities is consistent with what we find throughout the Hebrew Scriptures. Moses declares to the children of Israel, "YHWH is our Elohim, YHWH is one" (Dt 6:4). Were YHWH a multiplicity of gods or personalities what would be the point of saying that He is "one"? It is worth noting that it does not say YHWH is one of something (one god, one personality). He is just simply "one", in every respect of the word. Similarly, the prophet Zechariah tells us about the universal worship of YHWH at the end of days, "And YHWH will be king over the entire earth; at that time YHWH will be one and his name will be one" (Zech 14:9). Zechariah is saying that today people multiply YHWH but at the end-time all mankind will know that YHWH is a single individual deity with one single name. We are taught in the book of Isaiah that YHWH is the one and only, "I am YHWH and besides me there is no savior" (Isa 43:11). Elsewhere in Isaiah, YHWH poses the rhetorical question, "Is there an Eloha (God) besides me?" (Isa 44:8). Similarly we read in the Psalms, "Who is an Eloha (God) besides YHWH and who is a rock (=savior) besides our Elohim?" (Ps 18:32). In these verses the word for "God" is Eloha ????????, the singular form of Elohim. These passages are saying that YHWH is an Eloha and besides Him there is no other Eloha. Indeed, YHWH is called by the singular Eloha (God) some 47 times throughout the Hebrew Scriptures which proves that He is not a plurality or multiplicity. This and the fact that the verbs and adjectives connected with Elohim are always singular confirm our conclusion that Elohim is an majestic plural denoting a singular individual but with a connotation of greatness.
and Jesus backs the highlighted point completely
John 4:23
Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks./sigh this is the great truth of the bible and all the rhetoric in the world cannot change god's words. Amen
Romans 3:4
Not at all! Let God be true, and every man a liar. As it is written: "So that you may be proved right when you speak and prevail when you judge."Reniaa
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Black Sheep
So how can Jebooboo be the only true god in Isaiah when John 1:1 calls the word a god?
....and JWs weren't called 'Jehovah's Christian Witnesses' when I was being bullied into the cult. They are only Christian by their own say so.
I know many athiests whose humanitarian attitudes mean that they behave more like Christians than my own family members do.
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Spike Tassel
Jesus at John 17:3 states in his prayer to Jehovah that Jehovah is "the only true God". John 1:1's use of "a god" is in line with the Bible's definition of "gods" found at Psalm 82:1-8. Terms such as "Jehovah's Christian Witnesses" and "Christian Witnesses of Jehovah" have been used for many years, as a Google search will attest.
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Chalam
Jesus at John 17:3 states in his prayer to Jehovah that Jehovah is "the only true God". John 1:1's use of "a god" is in line with the Bible's definition of "gods" found at Psalm 82:1-8.
OK let's test your claim.
Psalm 82:1-8 (New International Version)
Psalm 82
A psalm of Asaph.
1 God presides in the great assembly;
he gives judgment among the "gods":2 "How long will you defend the unjust
and show partiality to the wicked?
Selah3 Defend the cause of the weak and fatherless;
maintain the rights of the poor and oppressed.4 Rescue the weak and needy;
deliver them from the hand of the wicked.5 "They know nothing, they understand nothing.
They walk about in darkness;
all the foundations of the earth are shaken.6 "I said, 'You are "gods";
you are all sons of the Most High.'7 But you will die like mere men;
you will fall like every other ruler."8 Rise up, O God, judge the earth,
for all the nations are your inheritance.It is clear, the "gods" mentioned here are mortal, see verses 6 and 7.
Now what does verse verse 8 say?
8 Rise up, O God, judge the earth,
for all the nations are your inheritance.Who is the the judge who rises up, "O God"?
2 Corinthians 5:10 (New International Version)
10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive what is due him for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad.
Yes, Jesus and the Father are one. Jesus is God, not "a god".
All the best,
Stephen
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Spike Tassel
You need the power of Holy Spirit for this one, Stephen. The cross-references I see for Psalm 82:8 (the bold part) is not 2 Corinthians 5:10, but rather Psalm 76:9, and Psalm 96:13. Let [Jehovah] God be found true — the only true God — even as Jesus prayed.
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Lieu
From the AB (or Setuigent), the verse reads:
"Be My witnesses, and I too am a witness, says the Lord God, and My servant whom I have chosen; that you may know, and believe, and understand that I am He; before Me there was no other God, and after Me there shall be none."
The word "formed" is not inserted.
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allelsefails
Spike - cross references are things added by the publisher of the bible - not part of inspired scripture. The fact that Your bible refernces 2 verses together is meaningless. "You need the power of Holy Spirit" = "I can't rationally examine this and explain it so I'll just say I'm right"
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Spike Tassel
re allelsefails (Post 140):— That's NOT what I mean by "You need the power of Holy Spirit", because that's not how Stephen uses this expression when he's posted recently. That having been said, I do believe that the Bible must be taken together in its entirety, and that sometimes subtle differences to one person are major differences to another, and vice versa. Proper spiritual discernment is needed to make a correct assessment. I assert that only Jehovah has the full sense of that, not even his glorified son Jesus has that discernment unless Jehovah allows it to be given to Jesus.
Thanks, Lieu for that Septuagint understanding. It's too bad that most of us haven't been taught Bible Hebrew or Greek in any meaningful sense of the phrase. It would be useful to have access to a word-by-word transliteration and translation of both the Hebrew and the Greek.
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allelsefails
Have you tried Biblos.com? It a greta tool for comparing translations and examing the actual Hebrew/Greek - without going to school for 8 years yourself.