by bobld 26 Replies latest watchtower bible
Proof please!
Http://www.osce.org/documents/odihr/2008/10/34254_en.pdf
Page 41, 49, 63. 65, 71 proves there stil memeber of the OSCE( OVSE is the dutch name).
And about Rutherford living as a king in the house of the profets, well you can start by reading the WTS publication of JW's in the 20 centurie. And as for his drinkingproblem and afairs, that's what they call a public secret. Bus surf trough the internet, the evidence and stories of withnesses are overwelming..
or perhaps its slander, instead
ninja, I'm just about to head to bed, if that makes any sense
Spike,
Believe me, I'm also a verry sceptic person. I also like proof. But as you know. The WTS says you need two whitnesses to have a case.
If you read former treads and surf the internet, You will find stories of many eyewithnesses/ friends of rutherford who know and saw he was an alcoholic and who went to nightclubs withe rutherford and who now he had affairs with different ladies.
You can choose not to believe the storries, but I think there is more proof of the above than there is for a lot of storries in the bible...
BTW: are you friends/family of Reniaa?
The watchtower might not fight a physical war with guns, but they are quite proud of their theocratic war.
In the process they leave a trail of the tortured. Mental abuse, spiritual abuse, suicides, blackmail, emotional anguish..... and they are proud of it!
The smuggness JWs breathe at thought of their neighbors being destroyed because they didn't heed the WT warning about the end of the world is also not very attractive.
The bible says that even as you lust for something in your heart, - its the same as doing it!
wp
Reniaa:: I recently found out about the watchtower soceity being involved with the U.N. Take a look at what this says from an article in a watchtower, I think its from the year 1979 on a questions from readers part::
IsittruethatforreligiousreasonsJehovah’sWitnessesmaynotbecomemembersoftheYMCA(YoungMen’sChristian Association)? Yes, that is so. In joining the YMCA as a member a person accepts or endorses the general objectives and principles of the organization. He is not simply paying for something he receives, such as when buying things being sold to the public at a store. (Compare 1 Corinthians 8:10; 10:25.) Nor is his membership merely an entry pass, as when a person buys a theater ticket. Membership means that one has become an integral part of this organization founded with definite religious objectives, including the promotion of interfaith. Hence, for one of Jehovah’s Witnesses to become a member of such a so-called "Christian" association would amount to apostasy.
Notice that I highlighted the part in red. consider that sentence carefully. Put the word United Nations in place of where the word YMCA is and then read it. Here:
In joining the United Nations as a member a person accepts or endorses the general objectives and principles of the organization. If they consider a person to be an apostate just for joining a gym that is part of some christian organization, then isn't it apostasy to become a member of the 'disgusting thing' just to get information from their library?? did you know that when becomeing a member they had to sign a paper saying they supported the U.N.? http://www.un.org/dpi/ngosection/pdfs/watchtower.pdf So, does this mean the watchtower has committed an act of apostasy those years they were part of the U.N. and at the same time millions of witnesses didn't have a clue and they were preaching to not be a part of the U.N. because it is the disgusting thing????? At least the pope openly tells his followers that he is involved in the U.N. The witnesses hid it, as if it were a secret. Nice. I see hypocrisy written all over and I wonder how Jesus feels about it???? He seen hypocrisy in his day, those pharisses had the truth but their actions spoke louder than their words. Is it the same today??? Their is countless information found on the INternet, why did they have to go join the U.N. and then preach to have no part of it???
I would like the preface my statement:There is a religion that is totally neutral in wars,neutral in Gov't, neutral in the Judiciary,however that religion is not the j.w./wbts.The reason is the wbts uses the court system to fight it's battles
I have to disagree with your conclusion. Defending yourself in a court of law, either civil or criminal, does not violate one's neutrality to politics or World affairs.
What is the alternative? Just lay down and accept any injustice that comes your way?
BTW What is the religion that is neutral?
Great information folks, on the tower still being heavilly involved with the affairs of the nations. How they can say they are neutral as to the worlds affairs beats me.
Just going back to the money issues we spoke about earlier, it is true the governing body have little personal wealth, but then they don't need it. Every thing they want is paid for by Watchtower. Free board and lodgings in the best Watchtower apartments, all bills paid for, trips around the world with everything paid for, a nice new car to travel in and finally such power that practically every word they utter is applauded and agreed with.
Hmm I think that is a pretty nice life!
Reniaa..The WBT$ had an association with the United Nations........The WBT$ Whored for the United Nations..By dispencing information,as was required of them by the United Nations..There is no excuse for that..
The WBT$ is also a major player in the war machine..The WBT$ and I both,own shares in the Rand Cam Engine Corp..
The WBT$ and I profit from War!!
.................LOL!!...OUTLAW
The UN is a Government, the 8th World Power. It is good to be apprised of what Governments with legitimate jurisdiction, like the UN, are up to. The YMCA is no such thing.
