Analysis: What they saw during the Gates arrest (page 2)

mrsjones5

But you know what? The good experiences we have had with cops have outnumbered the bad.

Josie

I got pulled over plenty of times as a youth. They often stopped me with some bogus thing like one of your tail lights is out, one of the lights over my license plate was out, or I was going 4 MPH over the speed limit. Every time there was quite a bit of haggling, questioning and prompting as though they were fishing. A couple times they even came straight out and asked me what I was doing in the neighborhood, seeing as how the most likely reason I was there was looking for drugs or trying to pick up prostitutes. In their minds there was a high likelyhood I was up to no good. I never got out of any ticket. I volunteered each time to allow them to look over my vehicle.

My crime. Being a young WHITE man in a poor predominatly black neighborhood.

I hear this all the time about blacks fearing the cops as they get stopped all the time for no good reason other than racially based profiling. Well it happened to me all the time to. But guess what I get a smart mouth with a cop, say anything other than yes sir, no sir and my butt goes to jail and the charges don't get dropped. Where is my outlet to complain and offer the cops an opprotunity to learn from their mistakes?

dinah

Being a young WHITE man in a poor predominatly black neighborhood.

Exactly.

LightCloud

Your missing the point.

Profiling and stopping people of certain races in areas of predominantly another race goes both directions.

I guess I should have just shut up and taken it. Oops wait I did.

Yizuman

I had my taillight busted out by the cop's flashlight when he pulled me over. Some idiot suddenly stopped in front of me for no reason (later I found out why, he apparently had a "fuzz buster" in his car because there was another cop right around the bend and his device picked up his radar.), so I veered to the right to avoid hitting him.

He pulls me over for that and accused me of trying to make an illegal right hand pass. WTF?

I told the cop what the idiot did in front of me and it was dark at night, so he had to see what he did through my rear window and see the car in front of me with the brake lights on as I veered away from it.

He had his flashlight in my face, so I could not read his lips when he was talking to me and I made it known to him that I am deaf. He didn't believe me, so I signed to him. That made him madder. WTF?

Anyway, he let me go. So as I started leaving, I felt a bump, thinking I ran over something. It wasn't until the next day I saw he busted out my taillight, same size in diameter as the butt of the flashlight.

So I get pissed off, grabbed my notepad and drove down to the police station.

I asked for the Police Chief and wrote down everything that happened and had him take a look at my car. He said he'd talk to him.

The lying cop swears he didn't do it and said he would take a polygraph. (well, if you lie well enough, you can pass it. Plus it's inadmissible in court due to it's unreliability)

Chief said it's he said and I said situation and since no pieces was found at the road where I was at (it all fell in, I have all the pieces accountable). I asked to have his flashlight examined by forensics to see if residue can be found on it and match it to the type of material found on my taillight. He dismissed it, stating it's unnecessary and costly. WTF?

So I left fuming. Left it at that.

Guess what? Karma caught up with him 4 years later. The cop went out jogging one day and came upon a corner that's hard to see traffic coming and going and got ran over by a van, killing him instantly. Saw his picture in the paper at work in the Metro section.

Yiz

dinah

I can agree with ya there, LightCloud.

BUT you were stopped for being in the neighborhood you were in. Only drug dealers and Jehovah's Witnesses go into bad neighborhoods.

(bad attempt at humor)

dinah

Guess what? Karma caught up with him 4 years later. The cop went out jogging one day and came upon a corner that's hard to see traffic coming and going and got ran over by a van, killing him instantly. Saw his picture in the paper at work in the Metro section.

Karma is a bitch. Gotta love her.

LightCloud

I have had my run-ins with power mad cops. There is worse, ie power-mad MP's or cops in small towns that have full knowledge that you are more likely military becuase of the post stickers in our window. Civilian cops have soldiers over the barrel big time and they often exploit us for money or just to get kicks off of messing with us. Its best to comply and 99% of the time if you are innocent nothing happens but a big inconvience a little humiliation and at times a big irritation and test of patience. To me it is just one of those things. I try to counsel some of my guys to just comply and pretty much solves or at least alleviates alot of the problems. But I will always get a guy to the unit that has the racial chip on the shoulder, or the over privileged entitlement atitude and it leads to me doing lots of paperwork and dealing out some corrective training until they get it.

purplesofa

good greif Yiz,

I think he surely did something worse than breaking out your tail light for Karma to come down on him that badly!!!!

purps

Analysis: What they saw during the Gates arrest

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