Can we blame our ancestors for our own shortcomings?

by undercover 443 Replies latest jw friends

  • daniel-p
    daniel-p

    This thread is about people, of any race, color or nationality, who want to blame their ancestor's history for their current misbehaving or faults.

    From Snow's persective, the answer is a big YES. However, as long as you say YES to that question, you can never overcome anything. As long as you shift personal responsibility and blame for your own actions to others, you can never overcome a damn thing and you'll always be the underdog.

  • beksbks
    beksbks
    Your black ancestors did that.
    Yes, they did.
    With the full knowledge and active participation of White buyers.
    No buyers, no sellers.
    Sylvia

    Herein lies the crux. You are willing to overlook the black sellers, because they were black. But you don't give credit to whites in this country that not only did not own slaves, but who fought and died to bring freedom and equality to blacks in this country.

  • snowbird
    snowbird
    Why is it that you couldn't just accept the subject of that thread for what it was without interjecting race, slavery or ancestry into it?

    If the subject is about a Black or, if you prefer, African-American, then race is automatically interjected into it.

    Fact.

    Deal with it.

    You don't like the truth? You can't "handle the truth"?

    That simply places me in the same category as the others (including you) who have responded on this thread.

    Sylvia

  • Mastodon
    Mastodon

    I think we should put all this behind us and start telling 'racists' jokes. About all the races. About gays & Jews too. Laughter is the best medicine.

    How does a Puertorrican get into an honest bussiness?

    Thru the back window.

    How do you know you are at a gay BBQ?

    The hot dogs taste like shit.

    Why did the mexican girl get pregnant?

    The teacher told her to do an 'ese'

    Why do black kids have bigger peepees?

    'Cause white kids get toys to play with

    What's the puertorrican definition of 'safe sex'?

    Locking the car's doors

    Why does the montana rancher bang the sheep at the edge of a cliff?

    So that the sheep pushes back

    Ok, I'm going to hell.

  • daniel-p
    daniel-p

    You don't like the truth? You can't "handle the truth"?

    That simply places me in the same category as the others (including you) who have responded on this thread.

    Sylvia

    And what exactly is the truth, Snow? That all whites are inherently evil due to their ancestry, and all blacks are inherently righteous due to theirs? because that's basically what you're saying. If no one can escape their heritage, we might as well commit mass suicide.

  • undercover
    undercover
    UC, you set the bait. You know you did.

    Some might see it that way, I guess, and I'm not afraid of stirring the pot from time to time...

    But an attitude was expressed on another thread (that was being hijacked from it's original intent) that I wanted to see explored. Will we resolve the all the world's racial issues on this thread? No, but it allows a dialogue about it where it didn't belong on other threads.

  • daniel-p
    daniel-p

    But an attitude was expressed on another thread (that was being hijacked from it's original intent) that I wanted to see explored.

    So far, not much exploring. Just Snowbird saying that Blacks cannot be held responsible for crimes they commit, and slavery was bad, and yada yada, while everyone else scratches their heads in awe at the astounding obtuseness of her argument.

    Good times.

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW
    Well, they're not really "overcoming" if they're blaming animal cruelty on the slavery of their ancestors.

    danielp..You can`t paint an entire race with the same paint brush,because of one fool`s comment..

    I just spent a small fortune on my dog`s medical care recently..He was attacked by a pack of wild bush dog`s..I think the guy who set up the dog fights is an AssHole!!

    I`m not going to blame all Black People for his criminal activity..Or..The stupid comment that came out of his mouth..

    Palmtree67..

    I agree. This could also be the cause of global warming.....

    I blame Cow Farts and McDonalds for Globel warming..LOL!!

    Cows fart a lot!....There would`nt be so many cows,if McDonalds did`nt need them for Burgers!

    You`ve got millions of cows farting and millions of people driving cars to McDonald`s to by a Burger..

    Between the Cow Farts and exhaust from cars getting to McDonald`s..Globel warming is going throught the roof!

    And

    Who serves you your burger?.....The lady with the Diamond in her nose..

    .....................LOL!!...OUTLAW

  • snowbird
    snowbird
    But you don't give credit to whites in this country that not only did not own slaves, but who fought and died to bring freedom and equality to blacks in this country.

    I most certainly have done so.

    I've mentioned the American Missionary Society who sent teachers to open mission schools.

    I've mentioned White Civil Rights Workers who were beaten and thrown into jail for protesting the mistreatment of Blacks.

    I've mentioned the little 10-year old girl who learned to read by fanning the master's son while he did his studies. The teacher was an abolitionist who had the little girl write many a pass to freedom for slaves.

    However, none of this erases the fact that grievous wrongs were done to our Black ancestors by Whites.

    Nothing will erase that.

    Sylvia

  • daniel-p
    daniel-p
    Well, they're not really "overcoming" if they're blaming animal cruelty on the slavery of their ancestors.

    danielp..You can`t paint an entire race with the same paint brush,because of one fool`s comment..

    I'm not, Outlaw. I'm really referring to Snow here.

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