The Son in two persons

by Deputy Dog 332 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  reniaa

  hi deputy

  honour is not the word worship and trinity is a different Jesus than what was tought to the Jews and early christians by Jesus himself and by the appostles.

  2 Corinthians 11:3-4 (New International Version)

  3But I am afraid that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent's cunning, your minds may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ. 4 For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough.

  A hypostatic Jesus was not taught or believed in by the Jews and early christians. This scripture is very damning for any that do go beyond the scripture in this way and leaning on their own human philosophy to describe Jesus and God.

  Colossians 2:8
  See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the basic principles of this world rather than on Christ.

  Reniaa
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  isaacaustin
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  isaacaustin

  Ahh dont feed the swine!
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  Deputy Dog

  reniaa

  honour is not the word worship

  I never said it was... But I honor the Father as God. Seeing how you honor the son, tells us how you honor the Father.

  Isaac

  Check your PMs
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  PSacramento

  Whatever you do to that Son , you do to the father, good and bad and whatever you do to the Father you do to the Son.

  To worship Jesus is to Worship God, to worship God is to worship Jesus.

  Its not that hard to grasp, the issue is when you decide to worship one OVER the other conciously.
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  quietlyleaving

  Reniaa

  2cor 11:3 is an interesting scripture because to my mind the greek proposition transliterated EIS does very strongly suggest hypostatic union (but this time between Christ and his followers). Perhaps its words like these that caused early christians to veer towards concepts of trinity and hypostatic union.

  check out this link

  http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G1519&t=KJV#

  Also I really think you need to start backing up your assertions from WTS material.

  The verses you have used above (2cor11:3&4, Col 2:8) have more force against JWs than for them because they do not teach Christ, as in being in Christ, to the majority of their adherents.
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  RubaDub

  Another way to help prove that both Jesus and Michael are the same person is to use the example of Superman.

  Most of the time, he was a newspaper reporter, named Clark Kent. But when the situation arose, he became Superman to fight against evil.

  That's why you never saw Superman and Clark Kent together at the same time. They were the same person.

  Hope this helps.

  Rub a Dub
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  quietlyleaving

  rub a dub that helps a lot
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  PSacramento

  Well, I think that perhaps the superman analogy is far betetr than the Hulk one that you did earlier, though Ilike thatone too.

  Even more so when we view SUperman's name, Kal-El.

  yes, that;s right people EL as in Elohim, El as in GOD !!

  Kal-el the son of god !!

  It all makes sense now !!

  Actually, on a serious note, considering that the creators of Superman were jewish, the El thing is something of interest, there is much biblical imagery in regards to Superman.
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  Deputy Dog

  PS

  Read John 5:22,23 again.