The Clark Kent/ Superman comparison is EXACTLY right, in my honest opinion, except that Jesus as the Minister differed in power/ blessing as compared to Jesus pre-Minister. Clark Kent had no Minister phase, as I understand.
The Son in two persons
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RubaDub
The Clark Kent/ Superman comparison is EXACTLY right, in my honest opinion, except that Jesus as the Minister differed in power/ blessing as compared to Jesus pre-Minister. Clark Kent had no Minister phase, as I understand.
Spike, I agree.
And there are other similarities:
Jesus and Superman both can fly and both are involved with major printing companies.
Coincidence ? I don't think so.
Rub a Dub
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Spike Tassel
RubaDub (Post 1963)
Jesus and Superman both can fly and both are involved with major printing companies.
Coincidence ? I don't think so.
Spike Tassel (Post 1982)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supermanmight suggest otherwise.
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Leolaia
That's why you never saw Superman and Clark Kent together at the same time. They were the same person.
As a phonologist would say, they are in complementary distribution.
However, since Michael is barely in the NT, and only in a reference to the time of Moses, one would not really be surprised that Jesus and Michael are not mentioned together at the same place at the same time. Or are they? If Michael is the archangel alluded to in 1 Thessalonians 4:16, then we would have Michael accompanying Jesus in this text. In Revelation 12, we have Michael fighting against the Dragon who was attacking the Messiah child and the woman who gave birth to him. And Michael is definitely mentioned together at the same time with Jesus outside of the NT, such as the story in the Ascension of Isaiah that names one of the angels at Jesus' tomb, who carries Jesus out of the tomb, as Michael the archangel. This perfectly fits Michael's role in Jude 9, the Assumption of Moses, the Testament of Abraham, the Greek Life of Adam and Eve, etc.
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Narkissos
Something similar happens with "the angel of the Lord" -- in Hebrew, the construction ml'k Yhwh is determined by the proper name, hence "theangel," and the determination is semantically carried onto the stereotyped LXX equivalent, aggelos kuriou (Genesis 16:7 etc.), which as a 'Septuagintism' means "the angel of the Lord," although it is formally anarthrous and to a Greek reader unfamiliarised with the particular LXX usage it could be taken as indeterminate, "an angel of a lord". This is because the anarthrous kurios functions in the LXX as a proper name, so that the lack of article implies determination rather than indetermination in that case, and in turn determines the previous anarthrous noun (aggelos) by semitism, i.e. calque of the Hebrew construct state. (End of technical section :)
Now in both JW and mainstream Christian interpretive tradition, "the angel of Yhwh" is very often understood christologically, although it is not explicitly used so in the NT (possible implicit allusions can be found, though, in Stephen's discourse in Acts 7 for instance) and, in fact, is ruled out (in the Clark Kent / Superman way) in several passages where aggelos kuriou is caught in the same story with Jesus (e.g. Matthew 1:20,24; 2:13,19; 28:2; Luke 1:11; 2:9; cf. Acts 5:19; 8:26; 12:7,23).
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RubaDub
Now that I think about it ....
The Jesus / Clark Kent and Mary Magdelene / Lois Lane thing come up.
Rub a Dub
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Spike Tassel
that's not scripture, that's blasphemy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Magdalene discusses several misidentifications and slanderous speculations.
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RubaDub
that's not scripture, that's blasphemy
Spike ...
I was in no way suggesting that to be a fact.
It was just a very general comment that Clark Kent has a close friend named Lois Lane. Jesus had a friend named Mary Magdelene. We don't know the extent of the friendship. Many have speculated. Could it be the same type of friendship he had with the Apostles ... we will never know.
In recent years, the Clark Kent / Lois Lane thing moved far beyond what it originally was. I was referring to the "old" Superman when Clark and Lois were workmates and acquantances, nothing more.
Rub a Dub
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hi nark and deputy
now can you show this to me biblically? because biblically God's son came down to earth became man died and got resurrected back and was still himself only not a man. it doesn't really go into details and so do we need the details?
I believe Jesus was fully human on earth as do the witnesses
but to put it simply. The way I see it is the best we can say is jesus used to be made of 'spirit stuff' then he was reborn into 'flesh stuff' and now he is once again 'spirit stuff'
flesh is flesh. spirit is spirit.
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Narkissos
Like you used to be made of "sarahle stuff" before you were reborn into "reniaa stuff" and now you are again "sarahle stuff"?
That would make you different from most (other) posters...