LWT, I would say it depends. I beleive some JWs are in the org in spute of their beleif and trust in Jesus and perhaps will be saved. I beleive others are in their simply serving man, alienated from Jesus and will not make it. I don't beleive there are more or less JWs who will be saved than Cathlocis, Presbyterians, etc. Hope that helps.
Question for Evangelicals: Are JWs Going to Hell?
by leavingwt 66 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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leavingwt
LWT, I would say it depends. I beleive some JWs are in the org in spute of their beleif and trust in Jesus and perhaps will be saved. I beleive others are in their simply serving man, alienated from Jesus and will not make it. I don't beleive there are more or less JWs who will be saved than Cathlocis, Presbyterians, etc. Hope that helps.
Thank you for those details.
Please allow me to ask another, specific question. I think you've already answered it, but I would like to be clear.
Let's say a JW is a 100% true believer and they think that "only WT is God's organization" and they believe that all other religions are from the Devil.
Is there a possibility that this person will go to Heaven when they die? In other words, will they benefit from Grace, in spite of their beliefs?
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garyneal
It is an interesting question as most Christians believe that all of mankind has two places that they will spend eternity, Heaven or Hell. Charles Russell felt that spending eternity in Hell was cruel and how could a 'loving God' permit people to suffer for all eternity in Hell. Bearing in mind that when I speak of Hell in this instance, I am speaking of the everlasting lake of fire. Matthew 25:46 speaks to what happens to the unrighteous (as it reads in the NIV), "Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life." In context (Matthew 25:31-46) this eternal punishment is referring to the lake of fire. Notice how the Watchtower Bible translates this verse, "And these will depart into everlasting cutting-off, but the righteous ones into everlasting life." Obviously, they do not believe in a literal Hell and believe in annihilation.
My mother-in-law loves the idea that there is no such thing as a literal Hell. She made it very clear at a meeting I attended with her and my wife while visiting our relatives. Her mother (my wife's grandmother) was a Baptist and made it very clear that she did not want to be cremated after her death. When asked why she said, "Because I do not want to burn twice." Obviously, the Baptist church she attends does not preach the same salvation formula that the Baptist churches I attended did. I can only speculate but I believe this caused my mother-in-law to question the belief in Hell and why it seems God makes it so hard to attain salvation. Therefore, when she heard the "good news" that Hell is not real from one of her JW relatives, she must have ran with it and studied to become a Jehovah's Witness herself. For the Jehovah's Witnesses who do not like the idea of a literal hell, is it possible that you could be deceiving yourselves and 'not enduring sound doctrine' and gathering teachers to say what your itching ears want to hear? This verse (2 Timothy 4:3) is something all of us Christians must be mindful of and continue to study the Bible to show ourselves approved.
So what is required for salvation? As stated earlier, John 14:6 has Jesus proclaiming Himself as the way, the Truth, and the life. Does anyone, outside of Jesus, have the Truth? The thing I find most peculiar about the Watchtower is how they state that you must come to the organization for salvation, baptizes their members in the name of the Father, Son, and the spirit-directed organization, Jesus only mediates for the 144,000 annointed ones, and only the annointed ones receive the Holy Spirit. All of these teachings contradict the Bible. So for the JW's (particularly those who have the Earthly hope) are you placing your faith and trust in God alone or are you placing your faith in God and the spirit-directed organization? If you do not have the Holy Spirit, how can you possibly know God? Jesus said in His prayer to the Father in John 17:3 (NIV), "Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent." The Watchtower Bible uses "taking in knowledge" instead of know in that verse. I can "take in knowledge" of Barack Obama and still not know him from Adam and he will certainly not know me from Adam.
Matthew 7:21-23
21 "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?' 23 Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'
Are Jehovah's Witnesses going to Hell? Do Jehovah's Witnesses have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ? Do Jehovah's Witnesses trust in Christ alone for their salvation? Are they relying on 'accurate knowledge' and lots of good works to obtain salvation? What exactly does everlasting punishment in the lake of fire mean to a Jehovah's Witness? Shall we continue to attend more meetings and go out in more field service to ensure that we can avoid the second death? Verse 21 of Matthew 7 would seem to suggest that but what about those individuals speaking in verse 22? Perhaps some JW's might find themselves saying, "Lord, Lord, did we not attend meetings in your name, and in your name go out in field service preaching your kingdom?" Did they get to know Jesus Christ?
I can't honestly answer this question myself as it will depend on the individual Jehovah's Witness. Sadly, they are Christians who aren't really doing the will of their Father either and do not have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. I believe that we can never work to obtain salvation for it is a free gift from God. The Watchtower's position on Jesus's sacrifice covering only Adamic sin places a large burden on the witness to work to obtain salvation and only those with the annointing believe they have the Holy Spirit and therefore know God.
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angel eyes
I love that pic outlaw...guna paste it and print it...have it put on a top...thanks...whooooow love it :))
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leavingwt
GaryNeal -- Thank you for that answer. Your remarks are in harmony with those of my Baptist coworker. To him, the JWs represent a snare from the Devil. If one becomes a JW, they've turned away from Christ and are in definite danger of Hell.
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OUTLAW
I love that pic outlaw...guna paste it and print it...have it put on a top...thanks...whooooow love it :)).....Angel Eyes
Cool!!..
Most Jehovah`s Witness`s love pictures of Satan on thier Tshirts..
Your going to be a Big Hit at the Kingdom Hall!!..
.....................................OUTLAW
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garyneal
leavingwt:
I edited also because it is not really for me to judge whether a JW does to Hell. I guess it depends on the heart of the individual JW and only God knows that. Still, their beliefs are peculiar to say the least and if an individual fully embraces them, I can see where they place themselves in danger of everlasting death.
May we all keep praying and studying the scriptures to ensure that we are living in harmony with God's will.
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leavingwt
I edited also because it is not really for me to judge whether a JW does to Hell. I guess it depends on the heart of the individual JW and only God knows that. Still, their beliefs are peculiar to say the least and if an individual fully embraces them, I can see where they place themselves in danger of everlasting death.
May we all keep praying and studying the scriptures to ensure that we are living in harmony with God's will.
Which, basically, is the essence of WHY a person would be "Evangelical", right?
They are concerned/worried about the JWs and others, and they are pro-actively seeking to reach these persons with the message of Jesus.
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Deputy Dog
leavingwt I think your question is a little misleading. JWs are just like any other human. It has nothing to do with what "Organization" you join. What do "YOU" do with Jesus? How will "YOU" escape the Wrath of God? It doesn't matter what church you join, execpt some churchs are more helpful in teaching than others.
Jehovah`s Witness`s live in WBT$ HELL!!.