New twist on creation story: Academic says God not the creator

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  • Narkissos
    Narkissos

    There is a possible "cut" etymology to br' (cf. TDOT) but it is rather related to the notion of "carving" than "cutting asunder" (like in the Baal/Yamm or Marduk/Tiamat myths); what comes closest to the latter is the odd use in Ezekiel 23:47 (slaughtering with the sword); the idea of separation otoh is prominent in Genesis 1 but it is represented by another verb (bdl hifil, v. 3 etc.) which is a priestly technical term (as in "separating the clean from the unclean). Of course there are reminiscences of the Chaoskampf: the watery abyss or ocean, tehom (cf. Tiamat) and the darkness out of which the "sea" and "night" are "separated" remain uncreated. But they are generally toned down. At this stage of Biblical Hebrew the underlying metaphor of br' is almost dead and the verb comes close to the abstract notion of "create," although it is not yet ex nihilo. What is debated instead (cf. Orlinsky and Westermann's reply) is the syntax of Genesis 1:1f: "At the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." OR "When God began to create the heavens and the earth, the earth was..."

    However, saying "the Earth (planet!) was there" brings us back to anachronism and concordism... :(

  • aligot ripounsous
    aligot ripounsous

    Shakespeare-like. God doesn't exist, only someone who let people call him God did create everything

  • Leolaia
    Leolaia

    I will have to await to see what her lexicographical analysis is, but her etymological argument that "bara' means separate and not create" is a little reminiscent of the Society's "stauros means stake and not cross". The usage of the word in the OT is certainly not as a generic word for separating things. Although there are a few cases of it having this usage where it can refer to persons or things (cf. Ezekiel 21:19, 23:47), it ususally occurs with God as its subject and refers to an act that produces something new (cf. chdsh "new (thing), to be new" used with br' in Psalm 104:30, Jeremiah 31:22); hence the naming of heaven, earth, and human beings in P's creation narrative (all objects of br' in 1:1, 27, 5:2), an act that evokes the naming of a child after being born (cf. other cases where it refers to birth, e.g. Psalm 102:18, 104:30, Ezekiel 28:13, 15). Separation itself may be commonly destructive, involving the disintegration of a previous whole, so the emphasis on God as the agent producing new things exceeds the generic sense of "separating" (see Psalm 104:29-30 where br' as the start of new life is contrasted with mwt, death, and cf. Isaiah 4:5 where Yahweh is prophesied as someday installing over Mount Zion a cloud by day and a pillar of fire by night), and this is most clear in instances where br' is used interchangeably with `shh "make" and ytsr "form, fashion" (e.g. Genesis 5:1, Exodus 34:10, Isaiah 45:18, Amos 4:13). All of this is overlooked if br' is only understood as an act of separation.

    She said technically "bara" does mean "create" but added: "Something was wrong with the verb. "God was the subject (God created), followed by two or more objects. Why did God not create just one thing or animal, but always more?" She concluded that God did not create, he separated: the Earth from the Heaven, the land from the sea, the sea monsters from the birds and the swarming at the ground. "There was already water," she said.

    I notice she mentions here just the acts narrated in v. 1 and 21. What about the creation of man in v. 27? There br' occurs twice, first it refers to just the creation of "one thing" ('dm, "humankind") and then it refers God creating 'dm as "male and female". Are we to think that man already existed prior to the sixth day but that what God did on the sixth day was separate the men from the women? How else could br' be understood in this passage without reading it as referring to creation? And outside of the creation narrative, br' commonly refers to the creation of "single" things (e.g. Deuteronomy 4:32, Isaiah 43:1, 45:12, 18, 54:16, Jeremiah 31:22, Ezekiel 28:13, Amos 4:13).

    The usual idea of creating-out-of-nothing, creatio ex nihilo, is a big misunderstanding."

    Of course. But this has little to do with the question of whether br' refers to "creation". Creation does not have to be ex nihilo. The ANE model in fact is one in which creation is the imposition of order and form to an initial formless chaos.

  • glenster
  • Leolaia
    Leolaia

    glenster....I like the first link quite a bit and while I am unsure which parsing of the syntax of Genesis 1:1-3 is best, John Hobbins' rendering makes a lot of sense and parallels well (as he explained) the style of other ANE creation narratives (with the main clauses underlined):

    "When on high no name was given to heaven,
    Nor below was the netherworld called by name,
    and primeval Apsu (heavenly watery deep) was their progenitor,
    and matrix-Tiamat (earthly watery deep) was she who bore them all,
    who mingled their waters together,
    such that no cane brake was intertwined nor thicket matted close,
    when no gods at all had been brought forth,
    none called by names and none destinies ordained,
    then the gods were formed within these two" (Enuma Elish I.1-9).

    "When Yahweh God made the land and the skies,
    there was not yet any plant of the field on the earth,
    nor was there any shurb yet sprung up,
    as Yahweh God had no yet caused rain to fall upon the earth,
    nor was there any man to till the ground,
    and a flood of water used to rise from the earth,
    with it watering the whole face of the ground,
    then Yahweh formed the man out of the dust from the ground" (Genesis 2:4-7).

    "When God began to create sky and land, and the land was welter and waste,
    with darkness on the surface of the watery deep
    and the spirit of God hovering over the water's surface,
    God said, 'Let there be light!' And there was light" (Genesis 1:1-3).

    In all three there is a lengthy description of the situation prior to the first creative act (narrated in the main clause), and in the case of the Enuma Elish and the Jahwist the primeval state is described in negative terms ("there was not yet ... nor"). The parallelism on the account of P however depends on how the syntax is understood.

  • PSacramento
    PSacramento

    An interesting view.

    I think that sometimes, when people NEED to take something literally but CAN'T, they find ways to take it litterally, even if it means changing the meaning and use of words when there is no basis for it.

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