Anyone seen Gran Torino?

by John Doe 57 Replies latest jw friends

  • yknot
    yknot

    I think a letter expressing regret and love along with some of the money would have been appropriate, but not all.......charity is an important lesson to instill and inheritance isn't a given (at least not in the US).

    I think leaving the car to the lad was great, he learned as much from the boy as the boy learned from him.

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    It's like the last chance to make up a little bit for previous failings. A father who was oblivious all his life wouldn't likely change and leave stuff for his family, if some other people had caught his eye. He would carry on as he always had. Leaving stuff to them might open a crack that would let light shine on a life time of failure, as far as family was concerned. Compare him, as a parent and his slightly disjointed familyto the large close vietnamese family unit. You are blaming the kids. But, i blame the patriarch. He has the primary responsibility. He gets out what he puts in.

    S

  • John Doe
    John Doe

    I think you're full of crap. Regardless of who's responsible, if people only talked to you to see what they could get, if they tried to take you out of your home so they could sell it, if they were general assholes, you wouldn't leave them anything either. And if you did, it wouldn't be doing them any favors.

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    So, his kids were assholes, just like he was to them. What i would do is immaterial, as i have no kids, and probably won't. I suspect that you have little idea of what it's like to be neglected, long term by parents.

    S

  • Saoirse
    Saoirse

    I wouldn't call Walt (the Dad) neglectful. He may have been emotionally distant but his children were fed, clothed and educated. Instead of being grateful for those things, the children chose to see only the bad that he did. Walt did make attempts to rebuild a relationship with his son. All his son did was dodge his phone calls and then tried to put the Dad in a retirement home in a bid to steal his house. Walt failed as a parent but his son also failed with his unforgiveness and selfishness. Just because someone hurts you doesn't mean that you have to do the same to them.

    My mother is shunning me now. If at some point she comes to her senses and tries to contact me and I ignore her calls, do I have the right to complain if she decides to donate everything to the WTBTS? I don't think so. Two wrongs don't make a right.

    I think the movie shows that those who remain unforgiving only end up hurting themselves.

  • yknot
    yknot

    Like I said, he reaped what he sowed....... family wise.

  • dinah
    dinah

    Walt was off fighting a war. Did anybody catch that part? I thought the son was just a greedy bastard.

  • John Doe
    John Doe
    Walt was off fighting a war. Did anybody catch that part? I thought the son was just a greedy bastard.

    Yup. Besides working for 50 years at a job to provide for his family, he had his own issues going on. The son, his wife, and their children were all greedy cold bastards.

  • ssn587
    ssn587

    I had to see the movie when two of my children seen it at them movies, one even told all the friends with her. that is soooo my dad, hard ass, no nonsense, america all the way, have a few at the bar with the buds.

    After hearing that I had to go see the movie loved it, use to have a M! Garand like he (supposedly) used in Korea, anyone here ever use one and get an M1 Thumb? anyway, loved it, will see it again.

    The hmongs were/are hill people from Laos and norther Cambo country.

  • yknot
    yknot
    Walt was off fighting a war. Did anybody catch that part? I thought the son was just a greedy bastard.

    Again had the character been involved and interactive with his children instilling respect, love and family honor ....... it wouldn't have happened. We aren't given a full back story, for all we know their mother had spent years degrading him as being derranged and crazy.....and in need of being put in a home if she wasn't there to care for him. I am not excusing their actions but merely saying the apple doesn't fall from the tree......... their devotion is a deep as his. Yes he provided for them as he saw fit (basics with little emotion) and they say fit to do a similar version via retirement home (basics with little emotion). BTW I have many Vets in my family and none of them were absentee fathers......all believed in family and passed it to the next generation and making sure their grandkids also valued family.

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