Okay, "pal", I'm not the one who has a couple of birds as companions, speaking of stupid.
Is that the best you can do, bitchboy? Their shit is worth more than you are.
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There's A Ghost At My Place Of Employment
by finallysomepride 151 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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Finally-Free
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BabaYaga
I find it very sad that so many threads on paranormal activity degenerate into angry name-calling and hurt feelings. Why is that? It seems that ones who believe are on the defensive to prove it... and those who do not are dogmatic and unyeilding.
If this subject is stirring up anger within you, why is that? What are you resisting? What does it matter what another believes or does not believe?
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Finally-Free
It seems that ones who believe are on the defensive to prove it... and those who do not are dogmatic and unyeilding.
It's simple. Everyone has the right to express their beliefs and/or disbeliefs. Only a fool expects someone to change their beliefs without seeing evidence. I don't have a problem with anyone's beliefs, but I do have a problem with people who expect to shove their opinions down my throat without offering any evidence or logical argument. Also, if someone attacks I reserve the right to respond.
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Judge Dread
Let's see, danielp said I was a fool, finallyfree gave me a W and said I was stupid, in addition to violating posting guideline #3.
I'm not going to sit here and take all that baloney from a bi-polar emotional wreak and someone who probably prefers birds to women.
Or maybe his last post was a Freudian Slip.
Judge Dread
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daniel-p
Baba, if you'll read the thread from the begining, you'll see that any amount of healthy skepticism about the afterlife is not tolerated by a few individuals. Certainly not everyone, but just a few. For example, I asked Judge Dread if it was unreasonable for me to not accept personal testimony as evidence that ghosts exist. He has sidestepped answering and instead offered false logic as his rebuttal.
This isn't about the existence of ghosts, demons, the afterlife, or anything like that. It's about being able to maintain a civil discussion based on reason and logic.
In the end, I will say this: While I find stories of ghosts and the supernatural mildly entertaining, I cannot not take them seriously. At least not beyond a certain point of cursory review. Every tall tale I have ever heard personally was told by a person who's judgment and emotional state I questioned, not because they had a supernatural experience, but because of who they were. Most often, they had a desire to feel special, and that they had a special connection with the world around them that others didn't have. This is a fantastical, fairy-tale mentality. Also, the existence of the supernatural would be contrary to virtually every known law of the universe. That's a hefty amount of laws to suspend belief in when considering an afterlife reality. I know that my beliefs and opinions are not going to dissuade those who believe in their own supernatural experience. I'm not sure I'd want to dissuade them in the first place, because I think those who believe in the supernatural, need to believe in the supernatural. Afterall, the most common form of this is with people believing there is a God in the sky that loves them and looks out for them. A lot of people obviously need to believe in that. Someday I may need to believe in it, as well.
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daniel-p
Let's see, danielp said I was a fool, finallyfree gave me a W and said I was stupid, in addition to violating posting guideline #3.
I'm not going to sit here and take all that baloney from a bi-polar emotional wreak and someone who probably prefers birds to women.
Or maybe his last post was a Freudian Slip.
Judge Dread
I don't appreciate you dragging in some other issue I proposed on another thread. Call me a fool back if you want, but using some other unrelated issue as ammo in an argument is just not cool.
ps. what the hell is a "wreak"?
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Finally-Free
I'm not going to sit here and take all that baloney from a bi-polar emotional wreak and someone who probably prefers birds to women.
- I don't know which of us you're calling bi-polar, but in any case I doubt your qualifications to perform a diagnosis. If I require a diagnosis I'll go to someone whose credentials I can verify, and not some nutter on a discussion board.
- Regarding preferring birds to women: It depends on the context. I prefer women for sex but birds are great pets. It works out well that way, since a woman would be offended if I tried to treat her as a pet. If you are referring to birds in a sexual context, then perhaps you're the one who is in need of serious help.
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GromitSK
Can we just get back to the thread and maybe start this discussion again for those of us who may be interested in pursuing the conversation? If you're not and think it's baloney that's fine but there has been a great deal of research as I mentioned above. I think a position of scepticism is reasonable. It would be easier to discuss this topic with those who are sceptical but open-minded after they have carried out some additional reading rather than just expressing opinions that may not be fully informed on the work that has been done on this subject in the past.
Surely no-one would expect a person simply to take the word of a stranger on such a matter. However suggesting that the person is mad, bad, fraudulent or mentally deficient in some way because their experience doesn't fit with our own isn't really helping.
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daniel-p
Surely no-one would expect a person simply to take the word of a stranger on such a matter. However suggesting that the person is mad, bad, fraudulent or mentally deficient in some way because their experience doesn't fit with our own isn't really helping.
I don't think I've ever done that. Rather, I meant that in every case where someone has told me personally about a supernatural experience, it seemed as if that person was wanting attention, or wanted to feel special in a way. I wasn't implying that every opersonal claiming such an experience has to be that way.
I do think there is a stigma against collecting verifiable evidence for the supernatural, sort of that "third rail" of science, like cold-fusion. Unfortunately, the field is dominated by quacks and sensationalists (the ones with the TV shows).
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Judge Dread
ps. what the hell is a "wreak"?
It's called "I hit the wrong key".
Okay, I think enough barbs have been thrown and I apologise for offending whoever was offended.
All I'm saying is there are too many people with too many experiences to be able to say the supernatural/paranormal don't exist.
I didn't sidestep anything. It's up to you to decide who and what experience to believe.
Judge Dread