Who was the God of Abraham?
by cameo-d 101 Replies latest watchtower bible
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jeremiahjs
First of all, im not part of a man made religion (jw) I do agree with alot of thier doctrine as well as other congregations and my own understanding. Few of my belifes are set in stone and these are important to me and i can plainly see them in any bible. There is truth and lies in all of man made religions. You dont use logic, your logic is scriptures being twisted to support someone's opinion of the bible, to me you are trying to persuade me with lies and twisted scipture, which is impossable. Christanity is a sect of the true living temple, or did you not read that God ordains from all His congregations, everything belongs to God right? And that God will clean out his own house first. This means God's church (closest to the truth) needs cleaning also, regarless of the denomination.
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jonathan dough
jere:
You are shoveling out WT doctrine hook, line and sinker. I don't care if you belong to them or not. It's some of the garbage you are passing off. Much of what you say it true, I'll give you that. As for logic, you are supposed to use, examine scripture with it, ... Are you saying we are suppose to be illogical?
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jonathan dough
Why are you so worried about slandering one of God's congregations? Is this what you live for Jonathan?
First off, it would be libel, not slander, and secondly, my criticism wouldn't amount to libel because generally truth is a defense. Third, as a matter of fact, yes, setting the record straight with respect to the JWs is one of my primary goals here. I devoted three years to this project of over 130,000 words. I stand guilty as charged, but all of my work pales compared to the millions if not billions of dollars invested in the WT publishing houses and that endless sea of criticism that gushes out of that money-making machine. Sanctioning my criticism but not theirs is a double standard, and I'm certainly not doing it for the money or the fame. And lastly, the WTS is not one of God's congregations. Some of his people are trapped in there, but the Society has completely inverted Christianity, top to bottom. You can't claim to be a Christian church or congregation and not believe the real Christianity of the Bible. It's impossible. You can't be a Christian in the truest sense and preach the Watchtower.
The bible teaches ressurection and judgment day after this. The bible doesn't teach that you inherit God kingdom when you die, God's Kingdom isn't completed and doesn't come down to earth until the end of this system of things (end of Rev); making it not possable to go there if it isn't finished yet. Plus don't you pray for 'God's will to be done and His Kingdom to come on earth as it is in heaven' like Jesus taught. The dead know nothing, they are resting waiting being raised.
Until you learn how to tie this directly to what someone has said, quote that which you are responding to, you're just spinning your wheels.
The dust goes back to the ground, the soul dies, and the spirit keeping one alive returns to God -not our spirit, we don't have one, but God's Holy spirit goes back to God, the breath of life. And may it be one day or a million years the next thing you know is that you are alive and the time of your death will feel like a split second. One would be alive, then dead, then regardless of the time it you would feel like your instantly back to life again, i would assume because the dead know nothing.
What does this have to do with anything I've written? Quote something, please.
Or do you belive everything your told jon. and twist the sriptures to back up your belifes while slandering others that may be true?
Of course not. If I did I'd be you, or a JW. And these aren't MY beliefs. I have an army of religious thinkers to back this up. I'm not the one out on a limb here, I'm not the one inventing religion and twisting things; you are, as well-meaning as you might be. These views of Christendom are well represented and attested to.
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jeremiahjs
Your never suppose to stop testing your belifes with the scriptures. Always test the inspired expression, and i have tested what i was taught by the jws when i was a child, the truth i can easly make sense with scripture i have kept the lies and opinions that i couldn't back up easly with scripture i tossed. Doing what the scripture says will teach you more through holy spirit than examining it with logic and wisdom. The bible was written for us seek the truth by doing what it says first, not to easily understand it all. Turning water into wine is inlogical, but i still belive Jesus did it. Logic isn't the key to the accurate knowledge of God; love, faith, truth, endurance and a humble open mind is.
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HappyGuy
One day you will see God and he will ask you why you called Him a demon
And I will look him straight in the (figurative) eye and say with a strong clear voice "because according to the Old Testament you committed, caused to commit, or praised those who committed countless unseakable acts in the name of your so-called 'justice' against peple who in many cases didn't even know why they were being butchered and the vast majority of these people were total innocents". And then I will recount as many of the many thousands of these cases that I can remember.
You defenders of this monster are as much scumbags as he is.
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jeremiahjs
I thought everyone proclaming Jesus is the Son of God is a Christiain?
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jonathan dough
and i have tested what i was taught by the jws when i was a child,
As a child? Give us a break. Try testing it as an adult. No wonder you think what you think. And if you relied on the NWT you didn't test anything.
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jonathan dough
I thought everyone proclaming Jesus is the Son of God is a Christiain?
And that is because you were raised a JW. They exagerate with words like "everyone" and that's the kind of baggage you need to drop.