Logistical problems of the new system...

by highdose 42 Replies latest jw friends

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  JWoods

  I think it is truly questionable that large dense populations (which JW doctrine insists upon because of the resurrection of practically everybody who ever lived in the past) would NOT be sustainable without today's industrial infrastructure.

  Although both the JWs and many pro-communist liberal thinkers hate it, the "green revolution" probably kept many millions of third world residents from starving to death in the 1960s and 1970s, and this is not possible without the industrial world of modern fertilizers, pesticides, and farm machinery. (note - the JWs hated it because it potentially diminished their sick hopes for famines to prove the time of the end - liberals and communist sympathisers of the day hated it because it had the potential to feed hungry third world people and thus reduce their enthusiasm for communist revolutions).

  Note too, that if you believe in Global Warming (via man's industrial CO2 profile), in this theory the industry-free earth could be several degrees cooler in such a paradise worldview - thus reducing further growing seasons and agricultural production.

  Of course, the non-logical JW answer to such logic would be: "Jehovah will provide everything we need". Probably extending to making the coffee beans and cocoa grow in even sub-arctic climates, quadrupling primative farming yeilds, etc. You can explain anything with miraculous acts of God.
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  Satanus

  Wt theory is or was that the earth would be returned to the semi tropical state that it was before their flood. So, there would be no glaciers, or need for clothing, even at the poles. All the food that you could possibly need would be growing all around you, earthwide paradise.

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  Farkel

  :What if you broke a tooth?

  Look at the bright side. At least all the windows and floors will stay cleaned.

  Farkel
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  JWoods

  :What if you broke a tooth?

  Several ways to propel the myth-

  * perfect teeth would not break.

  * perfect fruits and veggies would be seedless.

  * even if broken, perfect teeth would grow back on their own (likely this is the best one, as after about 600 years or so even if not broken, enamal teeth would be ground down to stumps) -

  Ya know, this makes me wonder how the ancients of the bible could have lived multiple hundred years without any form of dental care?

  Like we said before - if you want to bad enough, you can explain away anything by the power of miracles. I even heard a CO explain that angels would catch you and put you back if you fell off a cliff...
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  dig692

  How would we travel? Well we'd walk of course! Why else do you think the WTS emphasizes the DOOR TO DOOR ministry so much? To prepare you for the hundreds and thousands of miles you will be walking in the new system!
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  HappyGuy

  With the elecricity off all the nuclear plants will go critical after their backup generators run out of fuel. A few thousand Chernobyls worldwide.

  Chemical storage tanks, without electrical power, will lose their pressurization causing the chemicals stored inside to either explode or leak out. Many chemicals are very sensitive to change in temperature and without refrigeration BOOM.

  Bio weapons facilities, without electricity, after their backup generators run out of fuel, will be non tenable. The bio weapons will begin to degrade and the biological hazards will leak into the atmosphere.

  At any point in time there are millions of tons of toxic, radioactive, or biological materials being transported by ship, rail, truck, or plane. With the humans all gone those thips, trains, trucks, and planes will crash, releasing their hazardous materials into the atmosphere.

  The post Armageddon world will be a radiation filled, toxic wasteland.
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  JWoods

  And what about all the supertankers running wild after their crews have been killed off and eaten by the birds?

  Good grief - this is worse than the Rapture: At least in the rapture, only the born-again airline captains and ship crews would be twinkled up into space...in the JW view, practically EVERY SINGLE NON-JW PERSON with an operating ship, train, or aircraft will cause a monumental crash.
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  BizzyBee

  Although both the JWs and many pro-communist liberal thinkers hate it, the "green revolution" probably kept many millions of third world residents from starving to death in the 1960s and 1970s, and this is not possible without the industrial world of modern fertilizers, pesticides, and farm machinery. (note - the JWs hated it because it potentially diminished their sick hopes for famines to prove the time of the end - liberals and communist sympathisers of the day hated it because it had the potential to feed hungry third world people and thus reduce their enthusiasm for communist revolutions).

  .......politics aside, the reliance on pesticides, fertilizers, farm machinery is not sustainable in the long run. Third world countries using "green" technology have developed polluted water supplies, decimation of fish species, elimination of native plants, etc., making their population ever more dependent upon food sources from outside. The world must learn to grow food in an ecologically balanced way. For one thing, energy-intensive methods (including transport) were fine as long as energy was cheap. "The era of industrial agriculture is coming to a close because the resources are coming to an end."

  Maybe the libs got it right for the wrong reasons, but that is kind of a moot point when people are starving.

  An eye-opening article that should be read by everyone who eats food: http://www.leopold.iastate.edu/news/inthenews/Bioneers_0606.pdf

  Also fascinating: http://fukuokafarmingol.info/faplow.html
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  greendawn

  The whole paradise earth JW concept is a myth (lie) contrived as a means to draw people into the WTS. It is bound to appear more enticing compared to going to a paradise in heaven as a disembodied soul since that is something that no human ever experienced, a very abstract, cold and distant kind of concept. Whereas the earth is already well known and familiar something anyone can relate to, otherwise put it's a better bait.

  Needless to say that the early christian church members looked forward to a heavenly existance and had no concept of a paradise earth and a great crowd of believers excluded from heaven was contrived on obviously spurious grounds to consolidate the idea of an earthly paradise. In reality the approved faithful will move freely between earth and heaven since both of these realms belong to them. It will not be one at the exclusion of the other.

  However the JWs if asked the above question will simply say Jehovah will take care of everything. BTW chocolate (cocoa) nowadays does not just come from South America, its original home, but also from several West African countries, Indonesia and Malaysia though most of the best cocoa variety called Criollo is produced in Southern and Central America.
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  JoJoJones

  If animals are going to become vegetarians or vegans, then I can't help worrying about cats. They have to eat meat or they'll die. Cats cannot survive on a vegetarian diet. Would God change how their digestive systems work or what? This new system thing is hard to make sense of, and it is just so cold, cold, cold that Witnesses talk about houses they're going to take over and live in after Armageddon! I have heard some Witnesses say the most heartless things, even out in service where JWs supposedly show lots of agape love and caring to "worldly" people. If that was so, then why were they saying such unkind things?!