Possible Manifesto of the Texas Kamikaze

by SixofNine 146 Replies latest jw friends

  • Jim_TX
    Jim_TX

    It just amazes me that someone would do something like this - no matter how stressed out he was. If you're going to 'off' yourself - go get a giant zip-lock baggie, and crawl into it - so you are easier to clean up afterwards. Don't go destroy property and buildings.

    Anyway - my wife and I were in Austin right before this happened - not too far away from where these buildings are (Probably less than a couple of miles away). As a matter of fact, we had just left the hotel we were staying at, and went past Hwy 183 not more than thirty minutes prior to this event.

    Traffic was stop-n-go when we went through on Mopac headed south - I don't even want to think what it was like after this man flew into the building.

    Ironically, the hotel I first considered was much closer to the Echelon buildings, and I chose another hotel because it was closer to where I had business.

    Sad event. I feel for everyone whose lives have been touched or disrupted by this event.

    I also applaud those who stepped forward and helped out - in this crisis. Many who didn't need to - but did - and would - just because it's the right thing to do.

    Regards,

    Jim TX

  • Robdar
    Robdar
    It would be great if we could extend these feelings of understanding to other madmen or criminals that we can less easily identify with.

    I pay my taxes and do not identify with Stack. However, I do understand insanity. I used to be a JW.

  • BizzyBee
    BizzyBee

    Groupies.

  • miseryloveselders
    miseryloveselders

    add a little gasoline to this thread..........

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/patriot-movement-calling-joe-stack-hero/story?id=9889443 not the entire article, just some tidbits

    Bob Schulz, founder of the anti-government We the People Foundation, said that while he only advocates non-violent means of protest, he can understand Stack's motives and said it is a reflection of a movement unlike any he's ever seen. "There's a huge patriot movement," Schulz said. "I've been doing this kind of work for 30 years. Never have I seen the likes of what's going on now. It's delightful."

    One reason anti-government groups are embracing Stack, rather than distancing themselves from his extreme actions, is that he does not seem to be crazy, Potok said. It's a characteristic that troubles forensic pyschiatrist and ABC News consultant Dr. Michael Welner.

    "It's easy to get a sense that someone like snaps," Welner told "Good Morning America" today. "But this is the kind of crime that's planned for a long time... I don't find it to be psychotic. That's the problem here. It's rational."

    Schulz believes Stack was simply beaten to the point of desperation by the government.

    "The government is routinely allegedly violating the Constitution... Then when you call them on it, they ignore you too. That's enough to drive a lot of people together and to start, you know, some kind of movement," he said. "There are people that are out there so frustrated

    He sacrificed his life to inspire the quest for TRUTH," one Facebook poster said. "He deserves a memorial. A one man uprising... God Bless him."

    "This was quite heroic," said a member of Stormfront.org, a white supremacist Web site. "There is a gradual awakening underway."

    "This is just the beginning, prepare for battle!" another said.

  • sammielee24
    sammielee24

    I'm not really sure why Rob is being vilified for an opinion which seems to be read out of context.

    I don't see her advocating what the guy did - I don't even see it as sympathetic but perhaps more empathetic in recognizing that a person who will go to these extreme's is not rational. Doesn't make him a coward. Doesn't make him less of a man either. People will judge him as he already felt they had - whether he was dead or alive. He quite obviously felt he didn't matter and he was right - until he did this nobody knew of his problems or who he was. Does it excuse anything he did? Absolutely not. The next door neighbor who quietly kills himself out of sheer desperation doesn't have a face or a name - for some now, this man is a hero because they think he died for a cause and we have to wonder how many might get it in their heads to copy him.

    sammieswife.

  • purplesofa
    purplesofa

    Seven Deadly Traits Decoding the confession of the Austin plane bomber.

    By Dave Cullen Posted Friday, Feb. 19, 2010, at 6:51 PM ET

    IRS building in Austin. Click image to expand. The scene of Stack's performance murder Joseph Stack spent months on his manifesto. He was adamant about convincing us—or himself—why flying his plane into an IRS building was an act of charity.

    The five-page rant the software engineer wrote before his performance murder is illogical, hysterical, hyperbolic, and deeply dishonest. Stack's convoluted arguments explain nothing, and the thumbnail sketch of his impoverished life is absurd. And that's exactly why it's so revealing. The software engineer tried to con us with a deceptive self-portrait, but the real Joseph Stack reveals himself in the way he concocts it.

    I've spent 11 years studying routes to mass murder, in particular for a book on the Columbine school shootings, and it's startling how similar all the manifestos sound. Many of Stack's passages were practically lifted right out of the diatribes of Eric Harris, the Columbine mastermind. Yet while the notes are the same, the tune is not. Harris was a textbook psychopath, and Stack doesn't read that way at all. Stack has more empathy, less callousness, and none of the vicious desire to torment others for enjoyment. There are echoes of Virginia Tech killer Cho Seung-Hui here, but Stack forms coherent thoughts and speaks rationally. He gives no indication of insanity. Instead, Stack shares Oklahoma City bomber Tim McVeigh's disgust with intrusive government and Unabomber Ted Kaczynski's angry frustration at "the system."

    Each of those killers were driven by different motives. Yet they shared hallmark traits of a man headed off the rails. I spoke with several experts in mass murder Thursday, and we identified seven deadly traits of impending danger in Stack's manifesto.

    Narcissism/egocentricity: Joseph Stack ended his life with a supreme act of narcissism, and that quality leaps out of every line of his rationalization. It's all about him. Through 30 years of his torture, "thieves, liars and self-serving scumbags" in Congress continually targeted Stack personally. The IRS and his own accountant joined in to make him their personal whipping boy. When the Senate redrew the tax code in 1986, "they may as well have put my name right in the text of section (d)," Stack writes.

    Grandiosity: Stack's grievances are wildly overblown and his swipes at powerful institutions grand and hyperbolic: "the vulgar, corrupt Catholic Church . . . monsters of organized religion," "thugs and plunderers" in corporate boardrooms driven by "gluttony and overwhelming stupidity" committing "unthinkable atrocities." More comical is Stack's portrait of his own misery. As a fuller, objective emerges, we're likely to see more dramatic chasms between reality and his depictions, but the contradictions are already comical. Stack likens his plight to an elderly woman in the neighborhood living on cat food. He doesn't mention eating it in the cockpit of his private plane. In Stack's version, he lived and died a pauper. In real life, he amassed a series of businesses, a $230,000 home in an affluent community, and the airplane he crashed into the building.

    Martyr/injustice collector: Killers like Stack love to project themselves as martyrs, but that thinking often emerges from a long history of collecting injustices, while ignoring his ever-growing wealth. Big Brother "strips my carcass," Stack complains. His antagonists are merciless: "[A]s usual, they left me to rot and die." He complains that the 1986 tax revision might as well as "directly declared me a criminal and non-citizen slave."

    Superiority masking self-loathing (projection): Stack lashes out at "the incredible stupidity of the American public": "brainwashed" "zombies" who follow along dutifully, incapable of his keen insights to look right through the horror of "the real American nightmare." It's a feeble claim of superiority, when the entire treatise reeks of self-loathing. Stark ends with an attack on capitalism—"From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed." But this is not a man who rejected the system. He only rejected the idea of paying his taxes. He spent his life creating businesses, working the system, and constantly keeping score with his bank balance. Stack embraced capitalism and then convinced himself he was a dismal failure at it.

    There is a strong hint of projection in Stack's thinking. When he complains of moving to a better life in Austin and discovering "a place with a highly inflated sense of self-importance," he might as well be describing the document he's composing. Projection is common among depressed people, who take a personal trait they despise in themselves and apply it to something external to bat around and ridicule. The televangelist who decries immorality in the midst of an affair is a classic example. It looks to us like conscious hypocrisy, but it's really just a dirty little reusable tool for him to beat up on his own sins.

    Isolationist thinking: This served as an aggravating factor for Stack. He presents himself as battling a monolithic series of adversaries: big business, big government, Big Brother, big religion. He sees himself as a shrunken David unable to match this Goliath. There is a suggestion of paranoia here. Stack is a supremely unreliable narrator of his own story, but he does seem to have created real financial hardship for himself. When he repeatedly chose not to pay his taxes, one or more of his business licenses was suspended.

    That seems to be at the heart of Stack's whole mess. Unnamed, but ever-present in his commentary, is his immersion in a fringe group or groups who believed they were exempt from the federal income tax. By his account, Stack devoted enormous time, energy, and possibly money to this cause.

    Stack made some awful choices on his taxes, but surrounding himself with like-minded zealots may have been just as dangerous in the long run. In his insightful FBI study "The Lethal Triad," Dr. Kevin Gilmartin describes intellectual isolation as a key factor when extremists lash out violently. It's counterintuitive, but joining certain groups can be more isolating than living alone. Stack found a group that encouraged and validated the idea of avoiding taxation, which might have been difficult for him to sustain on his own. The moral support he found appears to have helped him sustain a rather nutty concept for 20 to 30 years, in spite of the economic distress it inflicted on him.

    Construing selfishness as selflessness: Stack needed a coping strategy, a rationalization for his financial failure. He found one in patriotism. Sure, it may look like greed to keep 100 percent of your paycheck, but Stack was doing it all for us! And, oh, the price he paid. "That little lesson in patriotism cost me $40,000+, 10 years of my life, and set my retirement plans back to 0."

    Helplessness/hopelessness: Joseph Stack committed both homicide and suicide this week, but all the signs point to suicide as the driver. The FBI trains hostage negotiators to look for two clear signals that a perpetrator is likely to do himself in. Helplessness is the sense that I can't get things to work out. Hopelessness sets in when that belief becomes permanent: The helplessness is here to stay. Stack's manifesto reeks of both. He felt powerless and took control in the only way he knew he could "win." He was pretty sure that if he crashed that plane his life would end. He just needed a way to justify it.

    That's where the first four symptoms—narcissism, grandiosity, superiority, and martyrdom—came back into play. Performance murders like Stack's are narcissism taken to its worst extreme. Lots of people will die, most of them innocent, but sorry, I had to kill them to make my point. It's all about me.

    Stack also had the grandiose idea that he was on a mission. "By striking a nerve," he hopes "the American zombies wake up and revolt." (Really? Because that's how we have responded to previous acts of performance murder?) As he wrapped up his manifesto and his life, Stack returned to the martyr theme. He was ready to make the ultimate sacrifice, for us.

    But there's a problem with this part of the story. Before Stack crashed the plane, he burned his family out of its home. How to justify that vindictive act in the diatribe?

    Stack just left it out.

  • BurnTheShips
    BurnTheShips

    Seven Deadly Traits Decoding the confession of the Austin plane bomber.

    In other words, the plane bomber would have been right at home posting here on JWN.

    BTS

  • beksbks
    beksbks
    Angry old harpies....
    BTS

    Woods and I have had our disagreements, but I wouldn't call him an angry old harpy.

  • leec
    leec

    I really hate it when people like this are given all this attention. There are people worse off than him, more desperate than him, in more dire straights than him. The difference between them and this loser is that this loser was rich enough to be able to afford his own plane.

  • purplesofa
    purplesofa

    http://www.latimes.com/news/nation-and-world/la-na-plane-crash-austin20-2010feb20,0,7182522.story

    Stack was an orphan.

    Stack grew up in Pennsylvania, where he spent 10 years at the Milton Hershey School, a residential school for orphan boys. Spokeswoman Connie McNamara said Stark graduated from high school in 1974. He studied engineering at Harrisburg Area Community College from 1975 to 1977, said school spokesman Patrick Early, but did not graduate.

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