What happens when you die?

by AGuest 97 Replies latest jw friends

  • myelaine
    myelaine

    dear Shelby...

    as a matter of fact when I said:

    "As you know satan is active and able to mislead many people often because we trust that which "resonates" with our "spirit"."... I was speaking of an event that happened to me.

    Because I loved carmel and what the bahai faith was trying to accomplish in bringing all faiths together for PEACE I quite publicly (on this forum) agreed that what they taught might be true. I basicly went to the top of mt. carmel and was burned. For 2 nights and three days I was fit to be tied. My God has rebuked me Shelby. And as a matter of fact If you had ever experienced it you would NEVER want anyone to go through it...I actually pray that God would have MERCY on people and not rebuke them in such a way.

    I would not pray that you would be rebuked in such a way...EVER. But If GOD chooses to rebuke you in such a way...kiss the paddle.

    love always michelle

  • AGuest
    AGuest
    Because I loved carmel and what the bahai faith was trying to accomplish in bringing all faiths together for PEACE I quite publicly (on this forum) agreed that what they taught might be true. I basicly went to the top of mt. carmel and was burned.

    And whose decision was that? Christ's? Did HE tell you to go? Of course not, and so now you think you've "learned" your lesson... and must warn me. And if I WERE following Satan... or man... your "warning" would be QUITE welcome. But I do not follow either, Michelle. I have openly and honestly confessed... from the day I started here and before... who it is I follow. Now, because I share something that YOU aren't able to "receive"... you want me to consider whether I *might* be listening to Satan. Consider. To the very detriment of my FAITH. And I'm supposed to just... well, say nothing. Seriously?? Were I to listen to you... and those like you... everything I heard or saw from this point on would be in question. That you don't GET that... well, blows my mind... in light of all of your "love" for me... and supposedly for God.

    "As you know satan is active and able to mislead many people often because we trust that which "resonates" with our "spirit"."... I was speaking of an event that happened to me.

    In light of what you said to me, I don't doubt that you were misled by the Adversary. All were, at one time or another. However, you say that as if he's stopped with regard to you. He has not. You are still being misled, even now... only this time, closer to blaspheming against the Holy Spirit. Which is EXACTLY what the Adversary wants you do.

    And you're more than willing to DO so... because apparently YOUR "spirit" does not "resonate" with the truth that I shared. YOUR "spirit," however, still follows a man... indeed, one who has seated himself in the seat of Moses.

    You might want to ask yourself... just HOW "far" are you going to follow both of them... Satan and earthling man... this time?

    I will ask you once again, please stop trying to undermine my faith... with your fear... under the guise of "love." The two are not compatible as, again, PERFECT love... casts ALL fear... OUTSIDE. Otherwise, I will have no choice but to tell you... and the one who is leading YOU... to get behind me... while asking the FATHER to rebuke you... which I have not done. I truly hope it does not come to that, though. It doesn't have to. You can simply try to "hear" me in what I am saying here.

    My peace remains.

    A slave of Christ,

    SA

  • AGuest
    AGuest
    Ak-Jeff, why do you bother read and then respond. You can always go to the next thread.

    I've asked that same question of similar posters dozens of times, dear Yizuman (peace to you!)... and have recently come to understand that there are quite a LOT of Nicodemus-types here on this Board. Some open and look, without commenting (to those, I say, may JAH bless!). Others, however, are sort of like hypocritical closet chocoholic, who run around decrying eating chocolate as "sinful" and "decadent"... indeed, head up the "witch hunts" for anyone who even looks like they indulge... all the while stuffing Hershey bars and Snickers down their throats behind closed doors.

    My take: if they open a thread I've started and ridicule once or twice, I just chalk it up to idiocy. I mean, they know what type of things I post. If they object and yet still open them... and then COMMENT... not once... not twice... but three times (what the..??)... well, then, I have to ask who really is the "crazy" one? Most probably, though, they simply have nothing better to do with their time... and can't afford Internet porn.

    If they come back again, however, and again... and again... and again... and... well, you know what I mean... I am led to believe that they are actually looking for "something"... but just don't have the faith to admit it. To those, I say, as does the Spirit and Bride:

    "Come! Take life's 'water'... the holy spirit of God... which spirit is poured out from the innermost parts of His Son and Christ, the Holy Spirit and my Lord, JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH... and will GIVE you faith... FREE!"

    Again, I bid you peace!

    YOUR servant, and fellow slave of Christ, the Holy Spirit,

    SA

  • myelaine
    myelaine

    dear Shelby...

    The Jesus that spoke to you as a child is the same Jesus that speaks to you now and he led you to become a JW which, as you said, IS the worse of the worst (UNCLEAN THING) for a while. Why did he do that?

    love michelle

  • Mall Cop
    Mall Cop

    The absolute truth about what happens to you when you die is answered by Deepak Chopra. The burden of proof is given by him. Read it if you really want to know what happens when you die. "Life After Death, The Burden Of Proof."

    If you have any doubts about the afterlife, you won't after reading this one.

    It is a penetrating and insightful investigation into the greatest mystery of existence. By facing death we will come to a deeper realization of who we are.

    All who responded to this topic will find this a better and more sure answer to the question posted here.

    Blueblades

  • AGuest
    AGuest
    dear Shelby...

    Michelle

    The Jesus that spoke to you as a child is the same Jesus that speaks to you now and he led you to become a JW...

    You are ENTIRELY mistaken, dear Michelle. Why in the world would he lead me to someone other than himself? It was because of MY disobedience TO his voice that I entered in among them. They were saying that THEY were "the truth," something I was looking for... and I believed them. They were liars, however, and had I only asked HIM... he would have told me that HE was the Truth and to NOT turn aside to the Harlot.

    He and I had this conversation because I thought the very same thing and asked, "My Lord, why did you lead me to them... LET me enter in among them." And his answer was that he had NOT... that it was my own "desire" that led me there, that rather than listening to HIS voice, the Voice of Wisdom... I listened instead to the voice of the "boisterous" Woman of Folly. Their invitation is exactly the same:

    "To whomever is simple (inexperienced, ignorant)... come this way... turn aside here!"

    I heard HER invitation, however, and not my Lord's. Why? Because my Lord's voice is low and soft and her's is LOUD (Proverbs 8:7; 9:1-6; 13-17).

    The DIFFERENCE is that HIS bread and wine bring life (Proverbs 9:5, 6) - HER'S, however, brings death. Why? Because it is STOLEN... and so must be consumed in secrecy... or "the dark" (Proverbs 9:17, 18).

    Now, I know what you're going to say: "Wisdom" is not Christ, because "she" is a woman. You would be mistaken, however, because Wisdom IS Christ (1 Corinthians 1:24). "She" the "female" that is IN both God AND Christ (Genesis 1:27; 2:21, 22).

    which, as you said, IS the worse of the worst (UNCLEAN THING) for a while. Why did he do that?

    You have it wrong, Michelle. Entirely. HE... is the One who led me OUT:

    "2The man who enters by the gate is the shepherd of his sheep. 3 The watchman opens the gate for him, and the sheep listen to his voice. He calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. 4 When he has brought out all his own, he goes on ahead of them, and his sheep follow him because they know his voice." John 10:2-4

    The Holy One of Israel does not lead us INTO "pens" - he leads us OUT of them! Do you REALLY think he would lead any of his sheep out of one "pen"... just to place them in another? I ask you: where is the FREEDOM in that? The sheep are SET FREE... NOT enslaved! And as a child I WAS free (as we all are/were)... until "certain men" came into our lives (whether through our parents or to us personally, through their agents)... and said we needed to be joined to them... follow them. Be PENNED UP... by them!

    And true, the Most Holy One of Israel ALLOWED it; indeed, Israel has been scattered to the four winds. But neither He nor His Son DID it. As someone else pointed out, we are free-will agents; the Most Holy One of Israel does not MAKE us do ANYTHING... including follow Him... or His Fine Shepherd, Christ.

    After our conversation yesterday I was in a bit of turmoil. I asked my Lord, "How do I keep speaking what you tell me, Lord, and yet endear myself to these people? They don't get it and I don't want to grow tired or have my love give out." And you know what he said to me? He said, "What was told to the man, Ezekiel? Hear, child, and get the sense of it." And he directed me to the second chapter of Ezekiel, verses 1 through 8:

    " 1 He said to me, "Son of man, stand up on your feet and I will speak to you." 2 As he spoke, the Spirit came into me and raised me to my feet, and I heard him speaking to me. 3 He said: "Son of man, I am sending you to the Israelites, to a rebellious nation that has rebelled against me; they and their fathers have been in revolt against me to this very day. 4 The people to whom I am sending you are obstinate and stubborn. Say to them, 'This is what the Sovereign LORD says.' 5 And whether they listen or fail to listen—for they are a rebellious house—they will know that a prophet has been among them. 6 And you, son of man, do not be afraid of them or their words. Do not be afraid, though briers and thorns are all around you and you live among scorpions. Do not be afraid of what they say or terrified by them, though they are a rebellious house. 7 You must speak my words to them, whether they listen or fail to listen, for they are rebellious. 8 But you, son of man, listen to what I say to you. Do not rebel like that rebellious house; open your mouth and eat what I give you."

    My heart rejoiced over this, Michelle... because I was reminded that I am not the only one who has gone through this. That you and others lack faith is not my problem... and that you even suggest I consider that it *might* be Satan was repulsive to me. And so I rebuked you, in the spirit of Proverbs 9:7, 8:

    "Whoever corrects a mocker invites insult; whoever rebukes a wicked man incurs abuse. Do not rebuke a mocker or he will hate you; rebuke a wise man and he will love you."

    So, now, please know that I cannot care if you... or anyone else believes me. I CANNOT. I KNOW what is occurring with me... what I am hearing... and seeing... and from whom. To DENY these things would be to deny that I exist my own self. But I do exist. I am here. I am not a figment of my own imagination. Nor is what I see or hear. That you and others can't/don't/won't get that is not my concern. It CAN'T be. Why? Because... what I share is NOT mine. So, if you don't/can't/won't... that is entirely between you and the Most Holy One of Israel. If YOU can't "receive" what I share... I urge you... look inside YOURSELF and ask just why that IS. Better yet... ask Christ, if you've the faith to hear his answer.

    My peace remains.

    A slave of Christ,

    SA

  • aquagirl
    aquagirl

    Im thinking that the reason that AKAJeff and others.like myself,read these threads,is because,every once in a while,someone makes a valid non "scripture rabies" point.Personaly,I scroll down thru the long scripture spouting obvious nutcase posts,and read the shorter ones that are real thoughts,and not regurgitated dogma.Had enough of that crazy when I was in "the Hood",Just sayin'...

  • The Finger
    The Finger

    Judgement

  • AK - Jeff
    AK - Jeff

    Need a comment? Ok:

    You Bible thumpers are all full of shit!

    Feel better?

    Jeff

  • myelaine
    myelaine

    dear Shelby...

    you said: Now, I know what you're going to say: "Wisdom" is not Christ, because "she" is a woman. You would be mistaken, however, because Wisdom IS Christ (1 Corinthians 1:24). "She" the "female" that is IN both God AND Christ (Genesis 1:27; 2:21, 22).

    ...and you would be wrong in that assumption.

    love michelle

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