How many here desire 'Reality' over the fantasy of eternal life?

by AK - Jeff 42 Replies latest jw friends

  • AK - Jeff
    AK - Jeff

    Me.

    Wasting time believing in such silliness is like hoping one day to turn into Mickey Mouse. Why not accept life now, while you have it, and understand that like all others before you, you are going to die too. You won't wake from that. Your eternity is fixed, but it has nothing to do with life.

    Jeff

  • MidwichCuckoo
    MidwichCuckoo

    I think we all desire 'Reality'...the idea of 'eternity' (at least on Earth) is somewhat an adult JW fantasy. How many times have we heard how they'll all be assisting each other to build etc? All the work they are prepared to do? - yet in this life (the real one) they hardly ever help each other or anyone else. It's escapism.

  • nugget
    nugget

    Leaving the organisation is like going through a double bereavement. In the past when we lost people we loved in death it was a temporary pain. Although we grieved it was all going to be ok eventually because we would see them again and be with them again. When I woke up to the lies of the organisation it was as if I lost those people all over again. coming to terms with no paradise meant coming to terms with no resurrection.

    I think clinging to a dream and postponing getting on with life is damaging but it also takes time to let go not of the dream but the hope tangled up in it that is the hard part. I really wish there is something out there but as I don't know for sure I will live my life in the hope there is, but make sure I make the most of my time here.

  • Chalam
    Chalam

    Hi Jeff,

    Forget the afterlife, I found Jesus brings life in this life, just like He said

    John 10:10 (New International Version)

    10 The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full.

    Blessings,

    Stephen

  • Luo bou to
    Luo bou to

    I believe in an afterlife but I also realize that we live now in the present It's tragic when we live in the past " if I only did this or did that" or the future like the witnesses do " when the new system comes I'll be happy" Both attitudes rob us of enjoying life now each day

  • chickpea
    chickpea

    the liberation of facing the reality that "this is it"
    has been nothing short of overwhelming for me...

    i find the improbability of being alive at this moment
    to be such a rush that i cannot help but smile while
    waiting for my heart rate to settle down....

    the bits and parts of assembled star dust that i call "me"
    have been/will be bits and parts other places ... this
    interval of "me" is pretty much all i get.... so i plan to
    stop offering this moment in the "stream of time" to
    distractions like the concept of "eternity"

    i dont think we should live like we're dying!
    i say live like you're alive!

  • The Scotsman
    The Scotsman

    Hey AK-Jeff

    No great shocks in your post - you don't believe - we kinda got that impression already!!!!

    I may believe in an afterlife - but I aint going to sacrifice my current life on this earth waiting for it.

    Luo bou to - your comment below is so true.

    It's tragic when we live in the past " if I only did this or did that" or the future like the witnesses do " when the new system comes I'll be happy". Both attitudes rob us of enjoying life now each day.

    The Scotsman

  • paul from cleveland
    paul from cleveland

    Why can't we believe both? Perhaps 'reality' is eternal life.

  • THE GLADIATOR
    THE GLADIATOR

    Ave, Imperator, morituri te salutant Jeff.

    We who are about to die salute you Jeff.

  • AK - Jeff
    AK - Jeff
    Why can't we believe both? Perhaps 'reality' is eternal life.

    Ok - I'll bite. What would make someone believe that? Other than fantastic stories in some holy writ written by other hopeful men and women thousands of years ago? Or stories told by hopeful men and women from a religious podium today? Or stories told us by our hopeful grandma or mother or dad, repeated from stories told to them? Of course you can believe any story you like. You can touch and feel current reality. All the rest is unprovable, inconsistent from culture to culture. In a few thousand years archeologists will uncover copies of Alice in Wonderland. Some hopeful people might take it up as 'truth'. They might like the stories and wish to put them on the same plane the Bible and other holy storybooks hold today. How sad! Jeff

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