Catholism as a whole should resign.
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Should the Pope resign?
by slimboyfat 49 Replies latest social current
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PSacramento
The Organization know as the Vatican is severly rotted and it is highly debateble if it can be saved.
The religion will be better off without the Vatican.
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PSacramento
Why are there Popes anyway?
Same reason there are GB's and head so ANY organization, people LIKE other people to control them and tell them what to do.
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Meeting Junkie No More
BTS - come again? "It was only a few thousand people - tops."
You are way off there. 20,000 PLUS in one day in BEZIERS - look it up - Albigensian CRUSADE; ok, maybe not the Inquisition, but a sorry record nevertheless.
If I'm not mistaken, God's Executioner at the time there told his henchmen: "Kill them all - God will know his own"It was only a few thousand people-tops.
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Meeting Junkie No More
From wikipedia:
On the other hand, the legate's own statement, in a letter to the Pope in August 1209 (col.139), states:
While discussions were still going on with the barons about the release of those in the city who were deemed to be Catholics, the servants and other persons of low rank and unarmed attacked the city without waiting for orders from their leaders. To our amazement, crying "to arms, to arms!", within the space of two or three hours they crossed the ditches and the walls and Béziers was taken. Our men spared no one, irrespective of rank, sex or age, and put to the sword almost 20,000 people . After this great slaughter the whole city was despoiled and burnt... [
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dissed
No need to for him to resign the Papacy.
When its time for Popes to go, they just conveniently die in their sleep.
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THE GLADIATOR
Having looked into the matter of how many people were murdered during the Inquisition, the reports vary from hundreds of thousands to many millions. Many were tortured but embraced Catholicism to save their lives. Those that refuse were usually tortured to death or burnt at the stake.
It also seems that protestant catholics also engaged in their fair share of murdering Roman Catholics. Christian murdering Christian, all to the glory of the most high.
If I have given inaccurate figures I apologise. I can only go by what I read. I grovel at the feet of his Popeness and recant instantly, without undergoing torture. Despite the gladiator costume, I was not alive during this grisly period of compulsory conversion to Christian. The English or European version, depending on who was torturing you.
Perhaps the best thing the Pope can do is sit on the sharp end of his mitre until he is absolved!
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PSacramento
Gladiator,
I have looked over other sites and cited works and I still can't find anything that says that MILLIONS died during the variosu inquizitions.
There are specualtions, yes, but that is all they are.
I will say this though, even if only ONE person had died that would have been already one TOO MANY in my book.
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THE GLADIATOR
Rather than paste in many links or quotes, why don't you simply google 'catholic inquisition 50 million killed.' Obviously you will get all the sights that are throwing this figure around.
Other sights claim the whole thing is exaggerated depending on their agenda. Google in something along the line of 'Very few killed in catholic inquisition' and you will get different information.
As I said earlier in this thread, 'In the end we believe what we choose to. Only a serious and thorough study will lead to a fair assessment. (Hope this cheers BurnTheShips up) Like so many debatable subjects in life, proof is thin on the ground. In this modern world you get what you google.
Not knowing the exact number killed will not keep me awake at night - I am a gladiator for caesar's sake
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cameo-d
It is already in the works to "reform" the religion into an eco-save the world---tranformation paradise. That's what all this interfaith green religion is all about.
*Cameo mumbles something about putting new wine in old bags*. It won't work, but many will probably still be deceived and go along with it.