Justmom and families memorial experience tonight

by justmom 27 Replies latest jw friends

  • justmom
    justmom

    So........

    It started in 1998 when we were disfellowshipped (my husband and I) for the big A word. Apostacy! Going against our baptismal question agreement.

    My husband already partook inside. Started at 29 years old. Born and raised a jw but new he should be partaking since 17 yrs old. Fear and who is he a kid to think hes one of the 144,000.

    Finally at 29 couldn't hold back. Most were ok with him cuz we were prettty popular inside. Its who ya know you know! After almost 3 years being disfellowshipped....

    in 2000 we decided to go to memorial as a family and partake since we now knew it is for all, an open covenant not just for the priests.

    We went, partook, caught them off guard and they were not going to have it again. Following year 2001, we go......and they stop us at the door tell us we are not invited in, had no friends and they would call the authorities if we were to force our way in. At the time we didn't know the laws on this legally. So we told them we were here for them, not for us out of love for them as all our families are inside. But we are not here to cause any problems, so we left peacefully.

    8 years went by. I guess you could say fear stopped us and feeling of why go if their not going to let you in anyways. Who needs that rejection.

    And then holy spirit kept reminding us, "who else will go and show them how they are denying my son by not partaking if you don't go. You've been raised one of them. You lived it to the letter of the law the best anyone could, now it has turned on them. Go....remember they rejected me (Christ) first. And a slave is no greater than his master, but they will not be able to say someone was not sent.

    So in 2009 my husband and I went. Totally caught them off guard and we went in fine. Partook (you could hear a pin drop) and left peacefully.

    Now 2010 is here and we know they are expecting us. We figured they would try and stop us at the door and not let us in.....

    But what happened is interesting. 3 brothers were outside directing parking. When we showed up (our 3 sons were with us this year) what a witness. All grown up!

    They sent their spy in to report us arriving and a brother met us outside and said We need to stop you here. You may come in but you have to wait outside til in starts. We have seats for you in the back already ( wow! reserved seating)

    But....I told them there is 5 of us this year not two. He said uuh wait here I have to get more seats then.

    Now mind you we arrived early to all seat together and now we have to stand outside for 25 minutes. Its trying to snow its so cold.

    The great thing is everyone coming in had to pass by us. Amazing looks on certain people. Scared to death of us. You knew who the visitors(worldly ones) were cuz they all smiled and said hello. lol

    When it started they let us in. Song had started.

    Everthing went great. All 5 of us partook.. Noticeable decrease in the goblet on the platform. My husbands father and mother sat right in front of the bread and wine, so they had to notice.

    When it was over we started to exit and funny thing...the brother at the beginning who told us to stand outside stood in the way of the isle with his arm out as to keep us from walking to the front of the kingdom hall. Like what were we going to walk to the front for anyways. Make an announcement, bomb it??????? who knows. I looked at him and said goodnite, my husband said thank you and we all left. Noone looked at us.

    We felt great when we got out. Very bittersweet. You feel no life or spirit at all in there. Our youngest said, noone looks happy or even like they wanted to be they. Looked like they had to be there not because they wanted to be. Our boys were ......how in the heck did they get that out of that scripture. It clearing says "EAT" not "OBSERVE"....lol

    So.....another year has passed. We will see what next year will bring.

  • Broken Promises
    Broken Promises

    Why did you go?

  • White Dove
    White Dove

    Nice cajones for standing up for what you feel is right. Good for you and your family! I would have proudly gone with you and partaken.

  • White Dove
    White Dove

    Probably for the same reason Shelby goes and partakes. It shows the JW's what they are supposed to be doing.

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW

    Funny stuff..You guys are hilarious..

    I wonder how Shelbys night went..

    .................... ...OUTLAW

  • justmom
    justmom

    White Dove:

    Thank you for your support at heart. It is to show them what they ALL are supposed to be doing.

    Folks that have been jws know if joeblow off the street goes to memorial and partakes, they feel no big deal, he doesn't understand what hes professing, we will have a talk or bible discussion with him and show him why he shouldn't be partaking so he doesn't do it again next year.

    When we as jws raised in the so-called truth leave, are disfellowshipped and then come and partake, wow $%#@ hits the fan.

    We know what we have done, our old friends and family see us and think what in the hell are they doing? But folks that remember us and know the kind of people we were inside...it may cause them to question something. Maybe even a small door of opportunity to be able to share why we do what we do.

    For even one person, it is worth it.

    So that is why we continue to go. As their yearly text said on the wall tonite, "Love never fails."

    Have a great nite

    justmom

  • AGuest
    AGuest

    My dear sister in Christ, 'Mom... the greatest of love and peace to you and you family, girlie!

    I am glad that you went for those you love! I am even MORE glad, however, that you went... with COURAGE... in obedience to the Holy Spirit!!! For some, this is a big deal... and big feat. Among man, perhaps. But to our Heavenly Father, the Most Holy One of Israel, JAH of Armies, and His Son and Christ, our Lord, JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH, the Holy One of Israel and Holy Spirit... it is a "least" thing, isn't it? I mean, it's not like they're saying, "You... go have yourself literally nailed to a stake!" It is OUR "torture tree/stake/pole," and we bear it... for HIM... gladly!

    What some don't realize is that trying to avoid the, well, poor treatment... isn't what a true christian would do. No, I don't mean that we would RUN to poor treatment - we're not martyrs! However, our Lord IS recorded to have said: "If anyone wants to come after ME... let him disown himself and pick up HIS torture stake/tree/pole... and follow ME... continually."

    Of course, we aren't going to literally pick up a log and go dragging it down the street day after day (yes, I am aware that there are some do might do so, but I promise you, I certainly can't. Can't lift one, let alone drag it with me!). So how do we fulfill this direction? We carry HIS "load." We go, enter in among "them" and take on HIS persecution. We are persecuted for HIS name sake.

    Those who wish to AVOID this, however, because... I agree... it can be difficult. But we have comfort in the Holy Spirit... and even in the words Paul wrote to Timothy:

    "For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind. Therefore do not be ashamed of the testimony of our Lord, nor of me His prisoner, but share with me in the sufferings for the gospel according to the power of God, who has saved us and called [us] with a holy calling, not according to our works, but according to His own purpose and grace which was given to us in Christ Jesus before time began, but has now been revealed by the appearing of our Savior Jesus Christ, [who] has abolished death and brought life and immortality to light through the gospel, to which I was appointed a preacher, an apostle, and a teacher of the Gentiles. For this reason I also suffer these things; nevertheless I am not ashamed, for I know whom I have believed and am persuaded that He is able to keep what I have committed to Him until that Day. Hold fast the pattern of sound words which you have heard from me, in faith and love which are in Christ Jesus. That good thing which was committed to you, keep by the Holy Spirit who dwells in us. This you know, that all those in Asia have turned away from me, among whom are Phygellus and Hermogenes."2 Timothy 1:7-15

    That last line is VERY interesting, in light of our Lord's words recorded at John 15:18-21 and light of those recorded at John 17:11:

    "If the world hates you, you know that it hated Me before [it hated] you. If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you. Remember the word that I said to you, 'A servant is not greater than his master.' If they persecuted Me, they will also persecute you. If they kept My word, they will keep yours also. But all these things they will do to you for My name's sake, because they do not know Him who sent Me."

    Dear ones, it is NOT the "world" (at the WTBTS defines it) that "hates" us... or treats us poorly. My "worldly" neighbors not only treat me fine, but actually look out for me. The "worldly" people in the grocery store don't give me looks of hate and disgust. The "worldly" people I work with treat me to lunch as often as I treat them. All of these treated me kindly, some even with LOVE... even when I was a JW! The ONLY people who have EVER treat me... personally... with hatred... and I know the same is true of you, dear 'Mom... are those who still follow the WTBTS. THEY are the "world" that my Lord spoke of when he said:

    "I am no longer in the world BUT THEY ARE in the world..."

    I ask you, WHO 'hated' the early Christians? From among whom were such ones "called out"? The non-Jewish people of Greece? What about some of the other non-Jewish nations? The Romans? They only "hated" the christians because the Jews FED the christians to them... in order to save their own hineys!! The "world" at THAT time, dear ones... was the Jews who rejected Christ... along with a few Romans who were used as "tools" OF the Jews. But it was not the world at large.

    And the same is true today: the world is NOT, say, Catholics. Catholics don't hate or persecute. It's not atheists - these don't treat me unkindly (well, okay, MOST of them don't - LOLOLOL! I can't say I can say that about some here, but... well, that's a very small segment of the atheist population, isn't it?). Nope, the only "world" that hates ME... the only "world" that my Lord called ME out of... is the WTBTS and it's adherents.

    If I AVOID such ones altogether, however... where is the "torture" tree that I am to carry? Where is the "persecution"? The "suffering" for the sake of Christ? It does not exist. I am never in a position to realize it. If, however, I take get under HIS yoke... and carry HIS load... I would HAVE to go back to them.... again and again... and again... as long as he (the Holy Spirit) SENDS me, wouldn't I? I would. And yet, just as he is recorded to have said, "MY yoke is KINDLY and MY load... is light." And it is. Yes, it can be... frustrating sometimes, indeed. But NOT because of him... but because of them... because they SAY they "see."

    So, me, I just "life MY head and rejoice"... as do many others... that my Lord even felt me "worthy" to be persecuted for HIS name! I feel like the man who, when my Lord stumbled when carrying HIS torture tree to Golgatha... stepped up... in front of God, the angels... and the Jews... even at risk of his OWN life... and helped him carry it. THAT man was NOT afraid... and praise JAH... neither am I. I don't care WHO sees me... or what they think of it. And I know, 'Mom... that you now feel just the same.

    Keep in mind, dear ones, that the "timid/fearful/cowardly"... depending on which Bible version one uses... are counted in with those who undergo the second death. Revelation 21:8

    I bid you all peace, and particularly you, 'Mom, and your lovely household...

    Your servant and a slave of Christ,

    SA

  • palmtree67
    palmtree67

    Just a question for mom and Aguest:

    Does the partaking have to be done in a Kingdom Hall on Memorial night? Or do you feel you could have a small celebration, including partaking on your own or with some freinds?

    I understand you want to make a point to the JW's. Do you feel a responsibility to make that point to other faiths, as well? (I'm not clear on what other faiths do or do not partake.)

    Please be assured my questions are coming from a respectful place.

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW

    PalmTree67..

    I was just on another thread with Shelby..

    There are Steps in the Memorial I`ve never known about..

    Steps the WBT$ can`t be bothered to tell anyone..They probably don`t even know themselves

    You would`nt know about them unless you had someone like Shelby to show you..

    Or at least tell you about them..

    ..................... ...OUTLAW

  • nugget
    nugget

    You have my respect for doing what you feel is right and having the courage to stick by your principals. Peace to you all.

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