100 Million Americans Question Official 911 Story

by sammielee24 217 Replies latest members politics

  • sammielee24
    sammielee24

    . They pretty well fit the ridiculous accusations of the 9-11 deniers. Look deeply at where this comes from and you will find garden variety Bush haters.

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    I don't have a clue what the definition of a 'denier' is but since I haven't once 'denied' that an attack took place, planes flew into buildings, people were killed, buildings collapsed - then I know that I can't be one.

    As for where the article came from - big deal. You ignored all the conspiracies proven fact articles that I printed in response to those that say 'it can't happen' and those are factual articles posted all over by reputable journalists. Again, who cares? I could have found the same type of article anywhere - that one just sounded interesting is all. No 'conspiracy' here.

    Let me also put to rest your notion of me hating Bush. I really don't hate anybody and Bush - well, not even him. My opinion of him rests on his actions which I have found destructive to the unity of the country - lying to bomb Iraq is one of those. I do not hate him and if the place where the article comes from happens to be in your definition a 'bush hating' site, and you find that offensive, well, I do suppose if I were so inclined, I could find you another article from a Gregor approved site - but I'm sure you'd find fault with that one too.

    The old chicken and the egg isn't it?

    You demand back up why someone doesn't believe all of the story they've been told to believe and yet - I've given it to you over and over again and it isn't good enough. You seem bent on making people accept the event as they've been told - even though the government can't agree that all is as it seems. Perhaps the fairy tale is in the commission report which we now know is not accurate - as you say - it's up to the people writing the fairy tale to make it real and so far, the commission report as it stands, apparently needs to be revised.

    Funny thing you know. Free speech and justice. Those thousands of people who were murdered never got their day in court. That's what the commission was supposed to do - be unbiased, investigate and recommend - and yet, the very committee that was supposed to give them that justice, hasn't. If someone lies on the stand under oath in a murder trial, they have broken the law. At least 3,000 people died - not by an accident - they were murdered. If people who had information relevant to the investigation lied (as the committee believes they may have proof of) then, they broke the law. That means that there has been no justice at all.

    That's not denying an attack on the people of this country, it's asking for justice for them and it's asking that every attempt be made to ensure that next time it isn't 30,000. Pity you can't see that. sammieswife.

  • sammielee24
    sammielee24

    Yes, sammielee is free to spew her fringe ideas.

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    I'm not spewing anything Gregor. Calm down. I'm simply opining here and as for fringe ideas? You must lead a sheltered to think my comments and questions are fringe. I've tried to make my point as succinctly as possible...let me know if you need help with the big words though..sammieswife.

  • read good books
    read good books

    Evidence...it's all about the evidence. Oh, wait...I forget...evidence and facts are not required by the 9/11 falsehood movement, just accusations and questions.

    Well when I looked at some of Charlie Sheen qustions about 911 he backs it up with some pretty disturbing facts.

    Okay, first; On the FBI’s most wanted list Osama Bin Laden is not charged with the crimes of 911. When I called the FBI to ask them why this was the case, they replied: “There’s not enough evidence to link Bin Laden to the crime scene,” I later discovered he had never even been indicted by the D.O.J.

    CSNumber 2; FBI translator Sibel Edmonds, was dismissed and gagged by the D.O.J. after she revealed that the government had foreknowledge of plans to attack American cities using planes as bombs as early as April 2001. In July of ‘09, Mrs. Edmonds broke the Federal gag order and went public to reveal that Osama Bin Laden, Al Qaeda and the Taliban were all working for and with the C.I.A. up until the day of 9/11.

    CSNumber 3; The following is a quote from Mayor Giuliani during an interview on 9/11 with Peter Jennings for ABC News. “I went down to the scene and we set up headquarters at 75 Barkley Street, which was right there with the Police Commissioner, the Fire Commissioner, the Head of Emergency Management, and we were operating out of there when we were told that the World Trade Center was going to collapse. And it did collapse before we could actually get out of the building, so we were trapped in the building for 10, 15 minutes, and finally found an exit and got out, walked north, and took a lot of people with us.”

    WHO TOLD HIM THIS??? To this day, the answer to this question remains unanswered, completely ignored and emphatically DENIED by Mayor Giuliani on several public occasions.

    CSNumber 4; In April 2004, USA Today reported, “In the two years before the Sept. 11 attacks, the North American Aerospace Defense Command conducted exercises simulating what the White House says was unimaginable at the time: hijacked airliners used as weapons to crash into targets and cause mass casualties.” One of the targets was the World Trade Center.

    I haven't read too many good responses to these questions, maybe I will get some on this thread, some pretty smart people on both side of the issue here. edited for errors in spelling.

  • Gregor
    Gregor

    Yes, sammielee is free to spew her fringe ideas.

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    You are quoting John Doe, not me. Maybe you need some reading help.

  • cyberjesus
    cyberjesus

    Wow, I am amazed to see the reactions of so many "critical thinkers" in this thread. So many Fallacies, attacking the character of the poster rather than the argument, red herrings and straw man.

    I actually learned from you guys and you are using fallacies to discredit her argument.

    Isnt the burden of proof reside first and foremost to the gobernment to show proof of their claims? And so far all the claims that I have seen are ridiculous and unbeliavable.

    Arent we moved to question everything? Arent we moved to ask why? If someone has a theory other than the official is only because the official doesnt make sense. Thats what got me out of the WT and from believing in the bible and religion. because the official statement didnt make sense and because I was interested in finding the truth.

    I did ask for a proof that God didnt existed. Rather I realized the WT was lying because I found why.

    Is the gobernment lying? I want to find out. and why?

    FREEDOM OF SPEECH is not only for people talking against religion,.

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW
    You haven't read a word I said, have you. Yes, sammielee is free to spew her fringe ideas. And people are free to give their opinion/refutations of those ideas. That's how free speech works. The
    cure for speech you don't agree with is more speech. Recognizing freedom of speech in no way entails agreeing with all speech.....John Doe

    JD..

    I am aware you are an advocate of free speech..

    I am also aware that you are not the only one posting on this thread..

    LOL!!..

    .................... ...OUTLAW

  • sammielee24
    sammielee24

    Sorry Gregor....a lot of you started to sound all the same and become a blur during response. Please consider my comment readdressed to Doe..sammieswife.

  • mindmelda
    mindmelda

    We have had a terrible credibility gap with our government in the USA for quite a while. A lot of people wouldn't believe anything the government told them, and it's kind of understandable when you catch them lying to you occasionally.

    The breach of trust started with them lying to us every so often, us catching them at it, so now when they tell the truth, we still can't quite believe them.

    I try to stay away from conspiracy theories, although what the government actually does in some ways is probably worse than some of them, or better than some of them.

    How the hell can you know except when it all comes out in the wash 30 years from now after everyone involved has pretty much died or moved on and then it's all right to tell the real story because no one can be sued or prosecuted anymore?

    *G*

  • cyberjesus
    cyberjesus

    When I told my dad what the old WT publications said he didnt even want to consider them because he said they were modified by apostates that wanted to attack the WT.

    1-So what about the pictures of the World Trade Center where you can clearly see explosions in the floors where there was no fire?

    2.- Really the towers collapsed by fire in less than 2 hours?

    3.- What about that passport of one of the terrorists that appear on the ground?

    4.- Or the airplane that hit the pentagon? just disappeared?

    5.- Or building seven, have you seen footage that Silverstein the Lease holder of the WTC said they decided to "pull" building seven? Do you how much money he made on the insurance? do you know when did he obtained the lease?

    6.- Do you wonder how come these are the only 3 buildings with a steel structure that have ever collapsed by fire?

    7.- Or how come they never found the WMD that they were so certain to find in IRAQ? Or how come if Saddam had them why if he knew how the USA operates how come he didnt use those weapons to defend IRAQ? Did he just build them for his amusement?

    8.- Or do you think is a fantasy that the Bin Laden Family has connections with the Bush Family? Really?

    So what do you do with those questions? Do you accept what you were told just because they told you? what happened with the circular reasoning that we are so against to?

    there are tons of questions and the answers are only for the people who wont question them. Is it possible to cover up a lie? Are you really questioning that an establishment would cover up? How about the 7 million JW that are victims of a lie? How come it is possible to cover up for 100 year or more?

    why do we have a problem questioning?

    JesusChrist!

  • cyberjesus
    cyberjesus

    Follow the money trail..

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