100 Million Americans Question Official 911 Story
by sammielee24 217 Replies latest members politics
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DaCheech
your quote: "I finally understand the level of ignorance I've been dealing with"
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VIII
I think it is presumptuous of you to speak for those 3,000 + victims or their families. Some of those families have been fighting for answers since it happened. Didn't Ann Coulter call the wives of some of them 'whores' or something? Just because they spoke up asking for answers?
Link for the Ann Coulter quote please. My inner beks is coming out again.
Think of it this way Gregor.
I'm the victim of spousal abuse and rape. I keep trying to tell someone how much I hurt. I tell them what I feel, show them the bruises. I'm told I'm conspiring to take down my church, my family, a family in good standing, parts of a community and so I'm ignored. I'm told I'm crazy, I'm told I must of deserved it, I'm told it couldn't have happened and it didn't happened. I show my facts but the report that's written is filled with lies written by those in charge of my care. I'm threatened with lock down in a psych ward if I don't shut up. So I shut up because I'm bullied into it - and vindication when it comes, if it comes, is when the perpetrator rapes a child 30 years later and countless people have suffered because of forced compliance. One hundred years ago, women were placed in mental wards by their husbands for daring to thwart his governance...the same application of threat and secrecy, of conformity, exists - it just takes on a different face.
If you are being abused by your spouse you need to go to the Police and go to a shelter for abused women. Why are you spending so much time on Conspiracy Theories regarding 9-11-01?
If you are going to a shelter for abused women and they are telling you they you are crazy, as your post says, perhaps you need to sit back and reflect on what proof you are giving them. Why is the man who is abusing you not in jail? Why are you still with him?
Then again, why are you stating "Those in charge of my care."?
Are you already in a Psych Ward? I ask in all seriousness.
Why is it that I can't ask some questions without being bullied into silence?
No one is trying to bully you.
Why is it that I am the one being told I'm a whack job if I don't believe what I'm being told to believe - and why is it that even when I do produce admission that the report handed out to you and that you believe in, was a lie, I'm crucified for not believing in a lie but you believe the same lie is the truth - and I'm the one that's wrong? That's twisted beyond belief and totally illogical.
Frankly, you sound like Jesse Ventura's Whack Job sister. I say that with all respect.
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JWoods
Thread now officially written of by and for myself as being worthless and reduced to personal sniping.
Cya, James
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read good books
Sorry I got here late.
This is what some of the orginal members of the 911 commission themselves said, this doesn't exactly inspire the same confidence that some of the members of this thread have in "the official story."
Senator Max Cleland, who resigned from the 9/11 Commission after calling it a “national scandal”, stated in a 2003 PBS interview,
“I’m saying that’s deliberate. I am saying that the delay in relating this information to the American public out of a hearing… series of hearings, that several members of Congress knew eight or ten months ago, including Bob Graham and others, that was deliberately slow walked… the 9/11 Commission was deliberately slow walked, because the Administration’s policy was, and its priority was, we’re gonna take Saddam Hussein out.”
Cleland, speaking with Democracy Now, said,
“One of these days we will have to get the full story because the 9-11 issue is so important to America. But this White House wants to cover it up”.
In 2006 the Washington Post reported that several members of the 9/11 Commission suspected deception on part of the Pentagon.As reported,
“Some staff members and commissioners of the Sept. 11 panel concluded that the Pentagon’s initial story of how it reacted to the 2001 terrorist attacks may have been part of a deliberate effort to mislead the commission and the public rather than a reflection of the fog of events on that day, according to sources involved in the debate.”
9/11 Commissioner Bob Kerry also has unanswered questions. As reported by Salon, he believes that there are legitimate reasons to believe an alternative version to the official story.
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“There are ample reasons to suspect that there may be some alternative to what we outlined in our version,” Kerrey said. The commission had limited time and limited resources to pursue its investigation, and its access to key documents and witnesses was fettered by the administration.
Commissioner Tim Roemer, speaking to CNN, stated that Commission members were considering a criminal probe of false statements. As quoted,
“We were extremely frustrated with the false statements we were getting,” Roemer told CNN. “We were not sure of the intent, whether it was to deceive the commission or merely part of the fumbling bureaucracy
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sammielee24
Bohm..you believe that you have all the evidence you need to back up the 5 points, including #4. I cannot adhere to that evidence, quite simply because as has been reported over and over again (see below) there is evidence in emails and hard data that shows the information given under oath by aviation and security officials, was questionable. The committee found enough evidence of lying to consider criminal investigation and charges so this leads me to think about why they lied, what they lied about and what the truth really is.
You assume that no action could have been taken or that those groups were sloppy - until we hear the truth from them, that is conjecture. You can choose to believe that.
I do not belong to any 'truther' nor any other group such as 'birthers' and the like. I base my own opinions on what I read from any number of sources, not just one. I may place an article here to read, but that would be only one of many. That doesn't make me part of any such group no matter how you want to put a label on it.
In regards to your own points, in number one you mention the Saudi's. My question to the involvement of the Saudi's is not that they funded Bin Laden because that makes sense - but we haven't yet had an answer as to why the Saudi family of Bin Laden were given special privileges and allowed to fly out of the country immediately afterward. That's a fact. And the answer to that question may have an impact on the next question or the next. So by my assertion, you can call me anything at all, but I don't belong to a group but I do not believe we know all that happened and we do need to understand each part if only to correct our own reaction to future information.
Quite obviously we still haven't tightened up our security or else the underwear bomber wouldn't have gotten past all the goal posts like he did - unlike Gregor, I believe the families of the victims deserve to know what happened and how we can make sure it doesn't happen again. sammieswife.
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sammielee24
Hey guys...why not tell me what you think of the post 'read good books' just put up there. Interesting information.
VIII - as I've said before, I understand your lack of comprehension skills. I think your bitchiness is unwarranted and your attitude ugly but what the heck, I don't have to live with you.
As for being Jessie's sister...I happen to like the guy from what I've seen of him and so there are worse people to call brother. I've found him to be considerate when speaking of others while getting his point across - something you most obviously can't seem to accomplish. Then again, I presume you would even try to respect others because in all reality, you just might hate most people and live alone with your 95 ferrets and that could be the reason for your churlishness. sammieswife.
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sammielee24
Is Freedom of Speech in the USA,conditional?..
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Of course it is. Proof of that here isn't there? If Coulter is any representative - we now understand that rudeness is linked to free speech apparently. sammieswife.
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Gregor
SW's posts is to show the chicanery of the US government
How can an unproven theory show anything. Now there's a leap of gullibilty.
My examples were not "apples and oranges". They pretty well fit the ridiculous accusations of the 9-11 deniers. Look deeply at where this comes from and you will find garden variety Bush haters.
