My Son's JW Mom Sends Him Condescending "Guilt Inspiring" E-Mail

by flipper 48 Replies latest jw friends

  • sammielee24
    sammielee24

    Just tell him to keep on kickin it Flipper! He's doing well.

    This sort of crud is, as we know, common in the JW style of things and the never ending pull of me vs them will never end as long as he is 'out'. Never.

    I recognize that there are and will be times that he will face pain, anger and hurt...sorrow...maybe not every day, but every once in a while when another letter comes or another plea is made. It will hurt more when he has children and faces the loss of a parent in their life as a loving grandparent, however, he has you and the Mrs. That is his gift.

    I'm so happy you have each other to draw on. sammieswife.

  • life is to short
    life is to short

    Excuse me but I had to throw up for a minute it really made me sick.

    I did not have the time to read the other reply's but that was just sick. I truly feel for your son. Living every day with a husband who talks like that it drives you crazy.

    Thank God your son see through the crap. Sorry he is going though that.

    LITS

  • mkr32208
    mkr32208

    My response to that would be mean and ugly....

  • shopaholic
    shopaholic

    I've gotten emails like that...if he's happy, then he should simply reply that he appreciates her concern and that he's happy with his life.

    Just want to share something...I was invited to be one of several speakers at an event for several hundred women regarding how to succeed in the workplace. Well the organizers, sent me a video recap of the event which included a snippt of presentation. I forwarded it to a list of folks about the lastest happenings in my life which included a few "cool JWs". Well, the "cool JWs" all responded that Satan had me using my gifts to help people get further in the world instead of saving lives. That I was now officially a tool of Satan and asked how many bible studies am I conducting

    Needless to say, they are no longer "cool JWs" but they are still on my list. My point is this, in the eyes of a JW, no matter what your son does its all for Satan or for nothing if he is not an active JW. Your son could fly to Haiti, personally rebuild 15 homes and school and your ex-wife would still say that it doesn't mean anything because he did not save their lives by offering them a bible study.

    The best way to shut-up a JW is to be happy and successful outside of the organization and to not engage in their mindgames but be interested in what interests them without getting into religion.

  • flipper
    flipper

    Thanks for all the replies ! My son responded to his mom late last night sending her an E-mail which I will post on a different thread within 30 minutes or so. I think you will enjoy it immensely. First I'll answer your replies. Thanks again.

    SOONER7C- I think I was shaking my head in anger after I read what my ex-wife sent my son. She's a total mind controlled moron.

    TROUBLED MIND- Yes, my ex was and continues to be a master BS artist.

    BABA YAGA- I felt that was an extremely mean thing for my ex-wife to say that my son is a " puppet of Satan in this dirty system of things. " Weird.

    SCOTT 77- Thanks for the suggestions. My ex-wife is totally and thoroughly mind controlled by the cult. She is so delusional about even being AWARE of the pain she inflicts on others when using statements dissing my son's song. My son wrote her an E-mail which I'll be posting shortly .

    ASILENTONE- I agree, good suggestions.

    BOBLD- I agree my son's JW mom is brainwashed, more accurately totally mind controlled and like you stated she is SO controlled that way that she can't even see the WT society is using HER as a puppet. None of these witnesses see it.

    JAMIEBOWERS- That is great that your aunt stood up on your behalf to your JW mom telling her how happy you and your hubby are ! Awesome. It is true- witnesses can't handle the fact that our lives are going very smoothly outside the cult. I think it causes THEM to doubt.

    COGNIZANT DISSENDENT- It is so crazy and hypocritical of your ex-husband to point the finger at your son for being bad association when he and his lady friend committed adultery. But isn't that just like witnesses ? They are aware of sins other people do outside themselves personally - but don't take the time to see they are even worse many times ! Very typical. I'm glad you are there for your son my friend to love and support him for who he is with unconditional acceptance. Right on. It's the way ALL parents should be.

    GLTIREBITER- Indeed, my ex-wife does believe ALL the crud coming down from the WT society and GB. I feel sad that she allows it to cloud her unconditional love towards my son. She is the one really losing out as my son is an awesome human being ! Wait till you read the letter he sent her last night.

    SCOTTIEBEAR7- Your ex-wife and mine might have been twins ! I just think there are a lot of " mother superior " judgmental types running around like loose cannons making everyone's lives miserable actually. Especially their own adult childrens lives.

    AGUEST- I think you will enjoy reading the E-mail my son sent his mother last night. I'll be posting a new thread on it. Pretty long and involved to put on this thread. Deserves it's own topic. Thanks for the advice. My son does feel sorry for his mom. He understands she is cult mind controlled. So he tempers his comments in his letter.

    NUGGET- I see it as my son's mom missing him too- but at the same time she wants to control HOW the relationship proceeds with only " conditional " love and concern. She totally dissed his gardening ventures by saying it's not that important, and totally dissed his music he has wrote and performed by saying it's rebellious. Like you said a simple, " I love you son " with no other conditions would be kind and I'm sure appreciated more by my son.

    HEAVEN- Indeed , I know you have experience in this arena my friend. I've read many of your experiences and admire how you have stood up to your parents in the past. I agree with you my son needs to state clear boundaries to his JW mom so she gets the message he won't tolerate being disrespected again. He sent her one last night. It was good. I think it will make her wet her pants. LOL !

    MATTIEU- Isn't that the way it usuaqlly is ? The ones charging US with being rebellious are usually a hell of a lot more rebellious than we are ! Your MS brother and friends share porn ? Wow. Bet the elders would dig knowing that ! My son is smart and in a happy place, yes.

    SNOOZY- You make a good point. Many of these witnesses like my ex-wife don't realize how hateful they sound. Because the cult mind control has de-senitized ALL emotions within them. They don't " feel " anymore- they are " programmed " like a computer how to think and react. Disgusting. Talk about a " dirty system " - the WT society has one !

    CHICKPEA- Good point you make. That would be a good sarcastic E-mail for him to write his mom. I think you'll enjoy the one he wrote when I start the thread in about 30 minutes.

    BLONDIE- I'm glad your mom doesn't have you E-mail address if she was as abusive as my ex-wife. It's just not worth being made upset like that.

    JRK- Hey bud, how are you ? Yes- I'm VERY GLAD she is my ex-wife ! I'm still pulling out shards of glass out of my bum from the 19 years I spent with her !

    MARY- If you knew what kind of high school student my ex-wife was- NO, she can't plant a f----ing plant without God telling her how to do it ! Very true that witnesses are trained to believe we will all implode into drugs, immorality, and delusion if we stop being JW's. So the fact that my son is doing well and is very happy is an eyesore to his mom

  • zoiks
    zoiks

    Mr. Flipper-

    All I can say is that I like your method of reaching out to your children far better than I like hers!

    The difference is obvious, and I think the results, some day, will speak for themselves.

  • flipper
    flipper

    Now for pg. 2 responses. Thanks again.

    SAMMIE'S WIFE- Thanks. I know you and your husband experience very similar things and know exactly where me and my son are coming from. You are right: JW relatives will continue to act boorish like this as long as he stays outside the cult. But my son is doing great, I think you'll like the E-mail I'll post on another thread that he wrote his mom last night. It's pretty awesome.

    LIFE IS TOO SHORT- I know you go through this mind controlled crap with your JW husband constantly- so I know you know how it feels too. My son has a good solid head on his shoulders - you will find his response in my next thread - very entertaining to read. I bet his mom is reaching for blood pressure medicine as I write this. His response was great !

    MKR32208- Yeah, my son could get mean and ugly- but that would just re-affirm to his JW mom that all of us apostates are mean and nuts ! LOL ! And he's a lot more together in his own mind than to blow up like a firecracker. He will get more accomplished writing a firm but to the point letter.

    SHOPAHOLIC- You bring up some awesome, excellent points ! Very true- My son could rebuild 15 homes in Haiti , help victims and his mom would STILL find something wrong with him. To witnesses it's all about doing THEIR program . Commenting, service, meetings, etc. Ridiculous. You are right- the best way to get to them is be kind , interested in them but don't involve WT topics or cultspeak. My son wrote a letter last night. It's quite the E-mail

  • sweet pea
    sweet pea

    When a person has been taught by the finest, it's no trouble at all to send a guilt inducing, WTspeak, email to anyone, especially a family member. The cult personality is alive and well.

    It's good to hear your son is so happy, long may it continue! He'll be OK with you as a Dad, Flipper . . .

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW

    Good Morning Flipper!..

    That was a frigg`in Lame E-mail..

    "Let`s talk about gardening..So we can Bait and Switch with WBT$ Propaganda!!"..

    The E-Mail starts out with dishonesty..Thats the High point..LOL!!

    Well son, many are waiting for you to stop allowing Satan to use you as his puppet in this dirty wicked system of things.

    Mom says..Her boy has made a Deal with the Devil..

    That is sooooooooooooooooo Frigg`in Inspiring..

    Why would`nt he want to spend time with her..When she`s not on her Broom?..

    ....................... ...OUTLAW

  • restrangled
    restrangled

    Flipper,

    I'm sorry I couldn't finish reading that e-mail. Instead of showing an interest in what your son was doing and his talents, she turned it around to the point that she was bragging about getting blisters on her feet doing God's work. It made me sick to my stomach.

    It was degrading and condescending....she has been trained well.

    Most Adults, would be taking notes for future gift ideas, questions to ask etc. Instead it was a plethora of statements, degrading his interests and abilities...

    He might as well of written: I'm a drug addict, growing my own pot, running from the cops....and have committed many crimes. Oh by the way I'm in a band, but I play music in worship of the Devil, have you heard my latest song to him?

    Just one case in point:

    " Your conscience that strikes a chord every now and then, don't step on it, strengthen it. You can never say I didn't try my son - we all want you to be a part of our lives serving our grand Creator together ! Changing our lives don't happen overnight, our heart has to be moved to do so. "

    Flipper, I don't know how you or your son hold your tempers. Strength and support to both of you!

    r.

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