Still hiding from my questions? How do you know what is true?
I told you to go to http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/members/adult/192102/8/Calling-Perry-Out-and-any-others-who-want-to-participate
for further response. I imagine you already read it, but I will post it here, then I am done. I may tangle with you another day on another thread, Perry. But I am done on this one and all the current ones where you are living with your head in your ass. I got out of the JW's and don't bother debating with them for good reasons and it appears that the same reasons are present with you. Anyway, here were my two responses:
#1
Starting out convincing yourself that your crap is a complete answer and mine is not- that is a good way
to have a healthy discussion.
Anyway, you are the one who debates like that so I will just respond in kind.
... You are hardly worth debating if links like http://www.s8int.com/ are what you rely on. It is just as silly as
your comments. It uses ridiculousness as its evidence.
One quote on there is :"RICHARD DAWKINS, Oxford, an evolutionist, "If a single, well verified mammal skull
were to turn up in 500 million year old rocks, our whole modern theory of evolution would be utterly destroyed." I whole-heartedly believe that this is either entirely wrong or just as out of context as WT magazine likes to be.
If it is out of context, it is possible that Dawkins was simply asserting that we would have to come up with a
more accurate "theory of evolution" and not to abandon it and switch to creationism. But whatever. the site is
loaded with garbage. I will answer MORE on how I know something is true or not.
I research, I read, I listen for a consensus among people that make sense and use their minds instead of just
blindly accepting things. Sometimes, I don't know. I do not know if whales are the result of reverse evolution
(mammals going from land to the sea) or if that theory will be discarded. Much of what Darwin has theorized has
already been discarded. I know you think that means that evolution is garbage, but it really only means that
man has admitted that we have found more evidence of "the truth" and the theories of the 19th century don't
fit anymore. Some of the theories of the 21st century will be discarded as more things are discovered.
So, I don't "know" that everything I believe is correct. I know plenty of lies because they are proven false by the
stacks and stacks of evidence. If you look at ridiculous websites that support your beliefs but won't even consider
actual evidence that there couldn't have been a worldwide flood, then good luck with that. I already answered that I do listen to the experts. But that doesn't mean I read one book or watch a few youtubes
and ta-da. I focus mainly on knowing the lies and then what is left is truth. But truth also is rational. There is no
absolute way to prove that God isn't out there, exactly as Perry believes He is. But there is no evidence that Flying
Spaghetti Monster isn't actually the one out there. So truth is that there is no evidence that such unbelievable things
are out there. Truth is that until otherwise proven, we don't need to put effort/faith in either of them. If that isn't the
truth, then my only backup is that God is free to contact me and tell me what to do. Until He does, I am on my own.
You don't know me at all. I did all that I could as an elder to forego judicial committees and let people off the hook.
I learned early on that I might be wrong, but I didn't have the mastery of the ability to let go and overcome fear.
I don't condemn Christians and scoff at their beliefs. But this forum is a place where such debate can take place.
Even here, I only go so far as to condemn the idiocy of those like you, Perry, who boldly declare their beliefs without
considering real evidence. But don't worry. Your own thoughts and links show you for what you are. If I have stated that you do damage to
newbies, I apologize. People can see through your closed mind as well as I can.
I was truly done with you there with that response, but you called me out on someone else's thread, so I responded again on my thread so as not to derail others' threads, so here is
#2
I am ending my participation in such threads by reposting my opening comments from a thread 7 months ago:
For the record, I don't believe in the God of the Bible, and I find it hard to believe in the God of any religion on earth. I am closest to atheist in my beliefs if you want a traditional title, but I prefer "Rationalist." I will do God's will for me when He directly tells me what it is. Until then, I am fine on my own spiritual journey.
That said, please feel free to state your own feelings/beliefs/spiritual journey. BUT, here's the point of the thread: JW's had to feel that they were "right" and all of "Christendom" and all of "Babylon the Great" were "wrong." They may have gotten that way when J.F. Rutherford discovered that self-induced "persecution" upon his flock could be manipulated into proof that they were on the "right" path to salvation. JW's are more about being "right" than anything else. They say that holidays and the cross and the military and the flag and birthdays and YADDA YADDA YADDA are "wrong." They say that door-to-door preaching, dedication to an organization, the stake, 1914, paradise on earth, YADDA YADDA YADDA are "right."
I don't need to be right anymore. I don't have to prove the nonexistence or the existence of Sky Daddy, Thor, Jesus, Flying Spaghetti Monster, Jehovah, a trinity, Allah, whoever. I don't have to say there is sufficient evidence or a lack of evidence for evolution or for creationism.
Sure, I will comment on such threads if I want to. The threads that lend themselves to such discussions are part of my spiritual journey. But the arguments get so petty and pretty funny. Keep up the humor, don't take yourselves too seriously. Some of you believe there is only one path to salvation, but some of us don't. If your God wants me to find it, He will contact me. If not, don't worry about me, life was fun.
On the other side, some atheists, evolutionists, anti-Christians are insisting on their way of thought also. Lighten up on the creationists and Christians. If they never agree with us, does it really matter? We are above our old JW ways. We don't have to be "right" anymore. We just have to get along.
Your thread was new so I responded, but I was already done with trying to have a decent conversation with you on the threads of others. Now I see I need to be done with you here also. (...and I know you really are not a troll like Trevor, it was a joke.)
