Initial Analysis Of The Times Square Bombing Attempt (page 14)

BizzyBee

Zing!

President Obama has caught more Taliban Leaders in 1 month than Bush/Cheney did in 9 years.

The Taliban played a central role in the planning of 9/11 and the training of the terrorists who launched that attack. The Taliban harbored Osama Bin Laden and American troops had Bin Laden cornered in the Tora Bora region of Afghanistan when then President George W. Bush and President Dick Cheney decided to let Bin Laden go so they could invade Iraq for Oil and declare mission accomplished.

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At the time it was a stupid decision that cost America the lives of our troops, plunged Iraq into chaos and drove America's debt through the roof.

5thGeneration

President George W. Bush and President Dick Cheney decided to let Bin Laden go.

Another grand conspiracy that thousands of troops, generals and intelligent officials went along with.

ROTFLMAO.

BurnTheShips

Condi steps out and defends Obama:

http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/AB/20100506/NEWS01/5070370/

"It's a very tough job to fight terrorism," Rice said prior to the Bethesda Foundation's annual fundraising dinner at the Hyatt Regency. "They have to be right just once. We have to be right 100 percent of the time.

"As I've said before, you give your successor a break. I know how (difficult) it is on the inside."

Rice, who has returned to Stanford University as a political science professor, said she knows several members of the current national security team - including Secretary of State Hillary Clinton - and would pick up the phone and call them if she thought she had something to contribute.

BizzyBee

Another grand conspiracy that thousands of troops, generals and intelligent officials went along with.

ROTFLMAO.

5th,

Do you know what an 'imperial presidency' is? Mr. Bush and his co-president Mr. Cheney expanded the authority of the Executive branch the likes of which this country has never seen. Google "imperial presidency Bush" for more examples than I care to clog up the board with. Then tell me that it took a 'grand conspiracy' for Bush/Cheney to do exactly what they wanted to do. Some of those 'generals and intelligent officials' have even written books about it. Get someone to read one to you.

5thGeneration

Oh, I didn't realize that generals and intelligent officials have come out and said that Bush "let Bin Laden go" on purpose. My bad.

Beyond your typical liberal insult 'Get someone to read you one', perhaps you could get me some credible quotes confirming the order to allow him to escape.

Thanks.

P.S. And yes, I'm well aware of reports that more troops could have been sent into Tora Bore at the time. That's hardly proof that Bush wanted him to escape so he could invade Iraq.

BizzyBee

Quite a bit of information here: http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=45423

which can lead you to other links if you are interested.

But - I don't think facts will make much difference to you - you've already swallowed the party line.

I recommend actually reading books about the topic, not just internet soundbites. It takes some context and development to understand the big picture. Which is pretty shocking. Did you know that Bush knew there were no WMDs in plenty of time to stop the invasion of Iraq? He did, but started the war anyway. Paul Wolfowitz had wanted a war with Iraq for quite some time - they just needed a semi-plausible excuse.

leavingwt

John AshcroftEric Holder Suggests Miranda Exception for American Citizen Terrorism Suspects

. . .

This reaction to an attempted terrorist attack is sadly predictable. The idea to "modernize" Miranda for an age of terrorism feels a lot like the process of "modernizing" the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), which meant a systematic slicing of meaningful privacy and civil liberties protections in the name of national security, and ended in the privacy-invading FISA Amendments Act and immunity for the telecommunications companies that spied illegally on Americans. It is also that rather transparent slippery slope towards "special courts," military tribunals, CSRTs, and other lesser forums where the government has a distinct or total advantage.

These consistent, and often bipartisan, efforts to relegate terrorist suspects -- now even American citizens -- to a Constitutionally-inferior status in the name of national security are getting old. If anything needs "modernizing," it is our predictable, anti-liberty reactions to terrorist threats.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/5/10/865137/-Holder-Suggests-Miranda-Exception-for-American-Citizen-Terrorism-Suspects

beksbks

As a couple of people have said, Miranda does not give the right, it protects law enforcement. The right is there whether they've been Mirandized or not.

Was McVie Mirandized?? Or is it only terrorists of Middle Eastern decent that make us forget who we are?

notverylikely

Another grand conspiracy that thousands of troops, generals and intelligent officials went along with.

Goddammitall 5th, I never figured we would see eye to eye on something.

Beleiving that is roughly equivalent to beleiving the moon landings were fake or Bush & friends masterminded 9/11. Too many people involved, too many chances for a leak, soo many moving parts.

Quite a bit of information here: http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=45423

WND and "information" aren't close, aren't even in the ballpark together, hell, aren't even the same sport.

beksbks

Doesn't mean they can't quote accurately.

Initial Analysis Of The Times Square Bombing Attempt

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