Initial Analysis Of The Times Square Bombing Attempt

by leavingwt 166 Replies latest social current

• 

  beksbks

  That is true under our law. It is not true under Sharia law.

  And? I don't give a crap about sharia law. This is America.

  Hehe that's like saying snake handling or speaking in tongues is intrinsic to today's christian community.

  No, that is not the same thing...but your statement on it perfectly illustrates my point about this apologist view toward Islamic terrorism.

  No, it is the same thing. As notverylikely just pointed out. You do realize that muslim is as generic a term as christian is, don't you? Shiite's and Sunni's are like JW's and Catholics.
• 

  JWoods

  Beks, I saw you over on the "Lets stop bashing Islam" thread -

  Lets do this - why not let LeavingWT have his thread back on the important Times Square Bomber story and debate the general Islam apology issues over there?
• 

  beksbks

  My comments on this thread were in response to Sam Whiskey. One of the supervisors at work is a muslim lady. She is truly one of the sweetest people I have ever met. I will never be able to agree that all muslims are evil people to be feared. Even if she is the only decent one in existence, she proves that theory wrong.

  As for debate, I think OnTheWayOut's video on the other thread says it all.
• 

  JWoods

  I will never be able to agree that all muslims are evil people to be feared. Even if she is the only decent one in existence, she proves that theory wrong.

  Not all JWs are evil people either - but they suffer from an evil religious teaching and organizational structure.
• 

  notverylikely

  NotVeryLikely, you are in denial on the extent of Islamic terrorist thought.

  If it were not pervasive, they would not be in control of entire mideast nations and committing acts of terrorism and human rights violations practically daily.

  Sheesh, so unless I agree with you I am in denial? I guess I can now just call you an alcoholic and no matter what you say, you are in denial.

  The reason the worst elements are in charge in a lot of those places are because the worst and most violent elements tend to rise to the top. Iran is a perfect example. Most of the people are fairly laid back and regular, but the worst elements have risen to the top and siezed the guns and control. Same with Cuba.
• 

  Robdar

  The reason the worst elements are in charge in a lot of those places are because the worst and most violent elements tend to rise to the top. Iran is a perfect example. Most of the people are fairly laid back and regular, but the worst elements have risen to the top and siezed the guns and control. Same with Cuba.

  I guess Jarvis Cocker was correct. "Cu^+$ are running the world. "

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auK4lX9fLA8
• 

  notverylikely

  I guess Jarvis Cocker was correct. "Cu^+$ are running the world. "

  unfortunately, i would tend to agree. I forget who said that "all evil needs to succeed is for good men to do nothing". I'm paraphrasing, but most poeple are lazy and don't bother to do something unless it personally affects them.
• 

  purplesofa

  you mean

  C ant

  U nderstand

  N ormal

  T hinking

  S

  ?

  hmmmm I agree!!!!
• 

  notverylikely

  If it were not pervasive, they would not be in control of entire mideast nations and committing acts of terrorism and human rights violations practically daily.

  who are "they"? 99.999% of muslims don't do anything like that. who exactly are you talking about? and if the people there elect muslim leaders, who are you to say they can't do that?
• 

  leavingwt

  SIGINT Spy Drone Key to Capturing Shahzad?

  A retired National Security Agency (NSA) source, speaking on the condition of anonymity, says signals intelligence was a key factor in catching Times Square bomber Faisal Shahzad.

  . . .

  The Posse Comitatus Act, signed into law in 1878, limits the powers of the federal government to use the military for law enforcement purposes. And it likely explains why WCBS-2 took the article down. Brown believes that if Faisal Shahzad’s capture was owing to signals intelligence from an intercepted phone call, it could have come from a satellite relay from a drone equipped with a sophisticated SIGINT package. But flying drones over New York City “gets into a murky area,” Brown explained, one that is the subject of a growing and yet unresolved debate. “Coast Guard, DHS and local law enforcement have expressed interest in flying drones domestically for surveillance purposes,” Brown explains, but so far it appears no one “officially” does.

  . . .

  If Times Square bomber Faisal Shahzad was indeed captured owing to an aerial spy platform circling over New York, the case for law enforcement’s use of drones may have gotten a boost as far as Joe Citizen is concerned. The adage, “if you see something say something,” is what inspired a New York City vendor to notify the police about the Times Square car bomb. In spycraft, that is what is known as HUMINT, or human intelligence. Coupled with SIGINT, or signals intelligence, the terrorist was caught.

  Sadly predicable, the loser tradecraft in this scenario was bureaucracy. Once again, the TSA failed to do its job. The Associated Press reports that “the no-fly list failed to keep the Times Square suspect off the plane” bound for Dubai. This is despite the fact that the suspect’s name had been placed on the TSA’s no-fly list earlier that same day: “He reserved a ticket on the way to John F. Kennedy International Airport, paid cash on arrival and walked through [airport] security without being stopped.” It was Customs and Border Protection agents who apparently spotted Shahzad’s name on the Emirates airline passenger list and recognized him to be the bombing suspect that every law enforcement officer in New York City was looking for.

  The story is updating quickly. Whether the public will learn about the possible key role of surveillance drones in the manhunt remains to be seen.

  http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/sigint-spy-drone-key-to-capturing-shahzad/?print=1