The earth survive forever? (page 5)

notverylikely

Perhaps you don't believe that the red sea was parted or the water turned to wine or that people where resurrected. To each the own I suppose.

I don't. I have no evidence. Why should I beleive that more an any other mythical story?

notverylikely

Lots of hand-waving explanations needed for the JW world-view of Armageddon killing off everyone but them, and then living on a paradise earth forever in violation of proven laws of physics.

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!

undercover

What is wrong with the argument that God could refuel the sun?

Well, BP has got this problem out in the gulf see, and hasn't been able to ship any fuel to the fueling stations in the outer reaches of the solar system...

Seriously though...

If God is perfect and his creation is perfect, why should he have to refuel anything?

yknot

Yknot,......Tell me what YOU believe

It is still a work in progress.....

I think I am leaning toward soul sleep.........

(if you think that is incorrect..... that might make a really interesting separate thread!)

OUTLAW

Sayitsnotso..

Perhaps you don't believe that the red sea was parted..

Do you do any research at all?..Watch a learning channel maybe?..LOL!!..

If you at least watched the learning channel..

You would know the Red Sea can be crossed,when the Tide is out..

Thats where Moses crossed with the Israelites..Thats where Napoleane crossed with his troops..

God did`nt part the sea for either of them..

I`m going back to my original opinion of you..

Your lazy and your here to preach..

............................. ...OUTLAW

sayitsnotso

If God is perfect and his creation is perfect, why should he have to refuel anything?

That's a good thought.

Some immediate thoughts come to my mind (not saying they are right):

How do we really know that there isn't already something different about the sun than all the other stars in the solar system? I'd be interested if this can be disproven.

How do we know that angles don't have the assignment to prevent the star from dying. I know this is out in left field but according to the bible we will never fully understand the creation of Jehovah.

Also, isn't most of what we know about a star's life-cycle from what we observe about others? How many years into the past have those events been? How sure are we that the "time-machine" of space observation is how things are currently happening now? Could there have been other physical laws in place before jehovah was done with creation? I know this is all specultive. I'm just saying we don't know everything.

undercover

How many years into the past have those events been?

Um, 49,000 years?

Each creative day is 7,000 years, remember?

(yea yea, I know, they don't push that teaching anymore...but I haven't seen an official retraction so I'm holding em to it)

sayitsnotso

Undercover:

*** g03 9/22 p. 21 Science Was My Religion ***
Furthermore, a creative day as understood by the ancients can mean an epoch of extended duration, in much the same way as the terms “period” and “era” are used by science in describing earth history. Thus, the Bible is not at odds with scientific findings. It indicates that the creative days lasted aeons.

undercover

*** w87 1/1 p. 30 Questions From Readers ***Second, a study of the fulfillment of Bible prophecy and of our location in the stream of time strongly indicate that each of the creative days (Genesis, chapter 1) is 7,000 years long. It is understood that Christ’s reign of a thousand years will bring to a close God’s 7,000-year ‘rest day,’ the last ‘day’ of the creative week. (Revelation 20:6; Genesis 2:2, 3) Based on this reasoning, the entire creative week would be 49,000 years long.

*** w70 11/1 p. 645 It Is Not in the Bible! ***More than 4,000 years later, the apostle Paul understood that this seventh day, the rest day, was still continuing. He referred specially to this rest day mentioned in Genesis, and said: "Let us therefore do our utmost to enter into that rest." (Heb. 4:4, 11) It is only logical that the peaceful thousand-year reign of Jesus Christ (who is identified in Matthew 12:8 as "Lord of the sabbath") also be part of God’s great Sabbath, or rest day. Thus, the great "seventh day" of God’s resting from material creation on earth would include the nearly 6,000 years of Biblical history since Adam, plus the 1,000 years of Christ’s reign that Revelation 20:1-6 shows is yet to come. So, if the other six of this group of seven great creative "days" are as long as the last one, then each one must have been 7,000 years long!

*** w68 5/1 pp. 267-268 par. 17 Understanding Time a Help to True Worshipers ***The word day can refer to a longer period of time. At 2 Peter 3:8 we are told: "One day is with Jehovah as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day." An even longer period of time than that can be embraced by the word, for Exodus 20:11 declares: "For in six days Jehovah made the heavens and the earth, the sea and everything that is in them, and he proceeded to rest on the seventh day." This refers to the creative periods of time, each of which, judging by the seventh, appears to be 7,000 years long. However, there is an even longer period of time that can be attached to the meaning of the Bible word day, one that includes all of the creative days together. Genesis 2:4 states: "This is a history of the heavens and the earth in the time of their being created, in the day that Jehovah God made earth and heaven." So the word as used in this sense apparently covers a time period far longer than each creative day.

*** w87 1/1 p. 30 Questions From Readers ***

Questions From Readers

? In ancient Israel a cycle of 49 years was followed by a Jubilee year (50th year). Does that Jubilee correspond to the period following God’s creative week of 49,000 years?

Because the number 49 occurs in both cases, it might seem that the Jubilee would foreshadow the time following the end of a creative week of 49,000 years. But for mankind in general who receive God’s approval, what occurred during Israel’s Jubilee corresponds more with what will occur during the Millennium, the last thousand years of such creative week, not what follows after that week. Consider the basis for this:

First, the Mosaic Law required that every seventh year be a sabbath for the land; crops were not to be sown, cultivated, or harvested. After the seventh Sabbath year (the 49th year), there came a special Jubilee year, the 50th year. It was a sabbath during which the land was again to rest. More importantly, liberty was proclaimed. Hebrews who had sold themselves into slavery were freed from indebtedness and servitude. Also, hereditary land was returned to families who had been forced to sell it. So the Jubilee was a time of release and restoration for the Israelites.—Leviticus 25:1-46.

Second, a study of the fulfillment of Bible prophecy and of our location in the stream of time strongly indicate that each of the creative days (Genesis, chapter 1) is 7,000 years long. It is understood that Christ’s reign of a thousand years will bring to a close God’s 7,000-year ‘rest day,’ the last ‘day’ of the creative week. (Revelation 20:6; Genesis 2:2, 3) Based on this reasoning, the entire creative week would be 49,000 years long.

I haven't seen a retraction nor an admittance that they were wrong.

But I'm glad you found that quote. Which is "truth"? The quote your provided or the quotes I provided? Both can't be truth. One has to be wrong. One has to be a lie. Think about that.

sayitsnotso

Well I still think saying "lie" is a bit harsh since they qualified it with strongly indicate.

But I see your point. What is stated is obviously wrong.

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