WHO ARE THE FALSE PROPHETS TODAY? (page 23)

isaacaustin

Yes Jookbeard, Mary, Essan and Chris gave such complete replies that I have nothing to add.

jookbeard

Issac; don't you think Consfearacy could be a Part II of Alice in Wonderland?

Consfearacy

Mary said, "Translation: And the obvious reasons are: I'm not going to respond to anything you posted because I have no rebuttal for anything you showed me. However, I still refuse to acknowledge that the WTS fits the biblical definition of a false prophet (even though they clearly are), so I will continue to ignore the proof and evidence given to me while at the same time, continue to post ridiculous rants about other topics such as Zeus and Apollo in the hopes of deflecting from the main topic at hand."
Consfearacy, I think Essan summed it up well. It is extremely difficult when you are 100% convinced that you are in 'the Truth', to be shown evidence that it is not 'the Truth' at all. That is what brainwashing and mind-control do to a person. Witnesses are by no means the only ones who are victims of a high control group. Mormons, Scientologists, Islam plus a whole host of off-shoot cults that are too numerous to name, all control their 'flock' the same way: by claiming to have a special relationship with God where He reveals His will to them and only them, and by refusing to allow anyone to question their authority. If you want to continue to live your life under the boot of such tyranny----knock yourself out."

If you didn't notice any divine intervention in your personal life you can speak about with definite certainty, there are reasons for this. You can work that out in your own mind. I will say that hasn't been my experience.

bh chap. 17 p. 172 par. 18 Draw Close to God in Prayer

Jehovah God also uses his holy spirit and his Word, the Bible, to answer the prayers of his servants. He may answer our prayers for help to cope with trials by giving us guidance and strength by means of his holy spirit. (2 Corinthians 4:7) Often the answer to our prayers for direction comes from the Bible, where Jehovah gives us help in making wise decisions. Helpful scriptures may be found during our personal Bible study and as we read Christian publications, such as this book. Scriptural points that we need to consider may be brought to our attention by what is said at a Christian meeting or through the comments of a concerned elder in the congregation.—Galatians 6:1.

w01 5/1 p. 18 par. 19 Maintain Your Joy in Jehovah’s Service

When we get tired, let us never conclude that we can reduce the pressure on us and regain our joy by cutting back on personal Bible study, field service, and meeting attendance. Why, these are vital ways in which we can receive Jehovah’s holy spirit, a product of which is joy. (Galatians 5:22) Christian activities are always refreshing and usually not excessively tiring.

w08 9/15 p. 21 pars. 5-6 Resist “the Spirit of the World”

The provision of holy spirit was not limited to the first century. It is readily available today, and God’s spirit can give us the strength to do what is right as well as energize us in his service. (Rom. 12:11; Phil. 4:13) It can also produce in us tender qualities, such as love, kindness, and goodness, which are aspects of “the fruitage of the spirit.” (Gal. 5:22, 23) However, Jehovah God does not force his holy spirit upon unwilling recipients.

It would be reasonable, then, for us to ask, ‘What can I do to receive holy spirit?’ Well, the Bible shows that there are a number of things we can do. An important step is quite straightforward—ask God for it.

In twenty years, I've never witnessed anyone leave the organization because they found out the early Bible students were mistaken about 1925. This a topic a person exploits after they left the organization for other reasons. Not to mention, in post 20 I posted 3 Watchtower articles prior to 1914 and 1925 where they left the door open to the possibility of unfulfillment and they also pointed out they were not speaking in infallible terms which means they didn't claim divine inspiration. Noting a potential date for the fulfillment of a Bible prophecy may constitute to some sort of ecclesiastical sin to some. I don't have a problem if others believe that.

OUTLAW

Alice in Confearasyland..

Your posting style has`nt changed..

LOL!!..

You like non Christian symbols too..

This is your avatar..

A swaztica at the top..

An Occult hexagram..

With an Egyptian cross in the middle..

THEOSOPHY: A simplified version of the symbol behind the occult beliefs of UN leader Robert Muller (his World Core Curriculum became a worldwide pattern for global education) and education leader Shirley McCune [See Star Wars Joins United Religions at the Presidio and The International Agenda] Notice the ankh in the center. The more elaborate version inserts a variety of other symbols such as the OM, pentagram, cross, etc. (Because of its dark occult meaning and similarity to some of the complex magical signs used in alchemy and masonic rituals, we prefer not to post it.)

Your last Avatar was a Witch with a Pentagram..

Your not someone anyone would consider a Jehovah`s Witness..

You like things Jehovah`s Witness`s consider "DEMONIZED"..

LOL!!..

........................OUTLAW

wasblind

Ahh Ha!!!!!!!

good work Outlaw

Essan

Consfearacy, Check you PM's. I addressed your point regarding your feeling that there is no reason for the a general Christian 'Apostasy' today. Your belief depends on the Watchtowers chronology, which, seeing as it has been so wrong on so many occasions in the past, why would you be so sure it is right now? Have you investigated 607 thoroughly yet? I'd advise it.

You said: In twenty years, I've never witnessed anyone leave the organization because they found out the early Bible students were mistaken about 1925.

Think clearly. We don't get to hear why people are announced as being "no longer one of JW's Witnesses", do we? So how do you know why people may have left the org? When someone DA's or is disfellowshipped for 'Apostasy' for seriously questioning the Society, the announcement and treatment is the same - shunning. So how would you ever know if anyone left due to the false prophesy of 1925? How do you know how many left after 1925 itself - you weren't there? Do the research. You'll find out. So your comment here is pretty meaningless.

Actually MANY people leave the JW's over their false prophesying. Ask around on the board. Of course, once people discover 1925, they tend to discover the other false predictions and lots of other errors that were hidden about the Society too.

Consfearacy, you last comment is absurd. You are deluding yourself in the extreme if you think for a moment that you have successfully defended the Society in anything. I'd be shocked if you could find a single other poster (other than the shameless liar, 'Debator') who feels your comments in any way negated any of the evidence presented here against the Society. Your apologetics on behalf of the WTBTS have been absolutely destroyed, repeatedly, by mountains of evidence from both the Scriptures and the Society's own literature. I already addressed and debunked the few duplicitous Watchtower quotes you gave - with their own words! You have no case. This is no reflection on you. You have set yourself the impossible tasks of defending the indefensible. And so, of course you failed spectacularly.

I sincerely hope that one day soon you join the ranks of the sane and unconditioned, and come down from the Ivory Watchtower, in Governing Body la-la-land, where black is white, up is down, failure is success, lies are truth, explicit statements are passed off as 'we didn't say', and where potentially rational people have sacrificed their power of reason at the altar of 'The Organization'.

I guarantee you, in a years time when the cloud fogging your thinking has dissipated, you will look back at this thread and say to yourself: "what was I thinking!"

And then you'll come across someone who is just like you are now, and then you'll know you really have your work cut out for you. :)

miseryloveselders

Essan, I admire your tenacity, but I can't help but feel you're wasting your time on Consfearacy AKA Alice In Wonderland. Good catch by the way Outlaw. I had a feeling but didn't trust my senses.

How's the weather in Houston by the way Consfearacy?

Essan

Thanks Miseryloveselders.

Yes, I'm aware that I may be banging my head against a brick wall with Consfearacy. However, I'm also aware that many JW's might read this later or are reading it right now but not posting, so I kinda feel a duty to try to thoroughly rebut arguments made on behalf of the Society when their guilt is clearly gross and undeniable. I suppose I hope that, even if it's of no use to Consfearacy, it may be of use to someone.

But anyway, I think C has given all his best defenses and we have dealt with them all. So this will probably fizzle out quite soon. There seem to be little left to say.

But you never know.... :)

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