May I respond, dear PSacto and Inkie? The greatest of love and peace to you both!
I understand that this is a difficult truth for some to grasp. Given that the Bible sometimes appears to say two (or more) different things what can we know? How can we know? We can look to the Bible and try on our own to understand what it says on the matter... but doing that is what has led to all of the confusion we presently have. Why not just ask the Holy Spirit as to this matter? In the Bible, Christ is recorded to have said, "These [the scriptures] are the very ones that bear witness about ME. Yet, you do not want to come to ME." But the book that contains that statement isn't scripture, so why should we pay attention to that? Perhaps we shouldn't, but I have found that not only is going directly to the Source the BEST way... it truly is the ONLY way. And so, that is what I did, in an effort to help those who are still seeking SEE... the TRUTH... regarding this matter.
Before I continue, however, I wish to remind you of something our Lord said to me very early on as to the things he gives to me and what is written in the Bible... which I have shared with you on more than one occasion. His words to me were:
"All things that I tell you... are written (but I understood him to mean "but not necessarily in the Bible")...butnot all things that are written (and I understood him to mean particularly what is in the Bible) is what I will tell you."
So, I asked him, "How would I KNOW?" and his response was that if I went to HIM, listened to HIM, paid attention to HIM, leaned on HIM, consulted with HIM... and NOT relied on my OWN understanding... HE would direct me... and make my path straight... HE would lead me... into ALL truth... as regards ANY matter that I inquired about. With that in mind, here is what I received on this matter. He first told me to remember the account of Balaam's prophecy to Balak and how that prophecy was initially delivered. It is this:
"JaHVeH met with Balaam and put a message in his mouth and said, "Go back to Balak and give him this message." So he went to him and found him standing beside his offering, with the princes of Moab. Balak asked him, "What did JaHVeH say?" Then he uttered his prophecy: "Arise, Balak, and listen; hear me, son of Zippor. God is not a man, that he should lie, nor a son of man, that he should change his mind. Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill?"
After that, Balaam went on to relate the message, which I won't do hear as that is not really the point of the response. What IS the point is that (1) for those who DO put their faith in what is in the Bible, you now have where the BIBLE shows that God is neither a man... nor a son of man. That Christ, however, WAS "the son of man" should help you see that there really is a VERY distinct difference between him... and the Father. That although the SON could and did "[empty] himself out and took a slave's form," the Father did not.
The Father DID manifest Himself to man THROUGH that Son... but it was just as WE manifest the SON through ourselves: by means of the SPIRIT that dwells IN us. But having God's spirit IN him didn't make our Lord the Father... or God... anymore than manifesting God's spirit in US... make's US God. Which IS the spirit that dwells in us: GOD'S spirit, THROUGH Christ.
Dear PSacto also mentioned Daniel's reference to our Lord as a "son of man." I took that issue to our Lord, as well. The reference is to Daniel's vision, to wit:
"In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a sonofman, coming with the clouds ofheaven. He approached the Ancient ofDays and was led into his presence. He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all peoples, nations and men of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed."
The word of my Lord to me... and which I will now share with you... is this:
The account in Daniel shows my Lord, the Son, approaching the Father, who commanded that my Lord being given authority, glory, and sovereign power. BEFORE he was given all of that, however, he was given something else, something that took him from being/appearing as a son of MAN... to that of a son of GOD: CLEAN outer garments, meaning the WHITE ROBE, meaning the SPIRIT BODY. Zechariah tells us about that event. Note, however, that (1) the High Priest is JAHESHUA (some Bible versions state "YESHUA" or "YEHOHSHUA", which has been translated as "Joshua"), and (2) neither the "angel of JAH"... NOR Zechariah... spoke during this event, contrary to what many Bibles state. It was ONLY the Most Holy One of Israel, JAH, Himself... to whom my Lord was brought up close to... who spoke, according the HEBREW writings). Thus, the TRUE rendering of the account is:
"Then he showed me JAHESHUA the high priest standing before the angel of the JAH, and Satan, who accused him, standing at his right side to accuse him. Then JAH said to Satan, "I, JAH, rebuke you, Satan! I, JAH, who has chosen Jerusalem, rebuke you! Is not this man a burning stick snatched from the fire?"
Notice, JAHESHUA is referred to as a MAN. The account continues:
"Now JAHESHUA was dressed in filthy clothes as he stood before the angel. Then He [JAH] said to those who were standing before him, "Take off his filthy clothes." Then He [JAH] said to JAHESHUA, "See, I have taken away your sin, and I will put rich garments on you."
"Then He [and NOT Zechariah] said, "Put a clean turban on his head." So they put a clean turban on his head and clothed him, while the angel of JAH stood by."
Notice, who is in the scenario: (1) the MOST Holy One of Israel, JAH of Armies... (2) the HOLY One of Israel, Christ... and (3) TWO angels: the "angel of JAH"... and Satan, who IS an angel. Why IS this? To understand that, we first have to understand who the two angels were and it is this:
The "angel of JAH" is MY'KA'JAH'EL (meaning, "with JAH as his God"; his name is NOT "Michael"..."or with us is God"... which is a modern mistransliteration. I did not know this even myself until now!). The other angel is "Satan"... or BE'LI'JAH'EL (meaning "without JAH as his God"; his name is NOT "Belial" or "being without God" which another mistransliteration).
BOTH of these are... ARKANGELS... angels of the ARK. Michael, the Arkangel... and Satan (which name means "Accuser"), the "arkaic seraph". And so both HAD to be there because... their very existence was to PROTECT THE COVER OF THE ARK... the "Propitiatory"... which is CHRIST, the "man" who was now being brought up close before the Most Holy One.
In Zechariah's depiction, therefore, you see what took place AFTER my Lord was brought up close before the throne of the Ancient of Days, the Most Holy One of Israel, JAH of Armies... but BEFORE authority, glory, and power were conferred upon him: his body reflecting MAN [in the flesh]... which is the UNCLEAN garment... the one with sin and death IN it. And that "garment" was REMOVED. To REPLACE it, he was given CLEAN, RICH garments... the WHITE ROBE... which is the SPIRIT body... the body that is INCORRUPTIBLE... and so does not have sin and death IN it.
However, my Lord did not give HIMSELF such "robes": they were ORDERED... GIVEN him... by the Father. And such GIVING was in fulfillment of my Lord's prayerful request TO the Father:
"Glorify me, FATHER... with the glory that I HAD... alongside you... BEFORE... the founding of the world."
What was this "glory" our Lord had BEFORE? Our Lord was a SPIRIT, born of the Woman, Jerusalem [Above]... which is the spirit realm. He came into existence INITIALLY... as a SPIRIT... which life force came forth THROUGH that "Woman." God placed our Lord's spirit in the WOMB... or "ARK"... of that Woman (just as He placed Adham's spirit in the body prepared for HIM!). From HER... he was "born"... and so he is the SON... of God's LOVE... for that Woman. That Woman is God's FREE "wife"... SARAH... whose "children" are SPIRITS... by means of a PROMISE... and as a result... are FREE. They are FREE... because they are not "bound".
Slaves, however, are BOUND. And so, our Lord... emptied himself OUT of that spirit vessel, the incorruptible body... and "took a SLAVE'S FORM"... by taking on the "corruptible" body... one of FLESH... which he did by coming THROUGH the woman, MARY. He came through HER... by means of God placing him in HER womb, just as he had placed him in Jerusalem Above's womb (the Ark). THAT woman, Mary, a woman of FLESH... is God's other "wife"... or "Hagar"... whose children are SLAVES [to the flesh].
Jerusalem Above... or "Sarah"...is the FREE wife... whose children... those BORN of the SPIRIT... are FREE. They are only so free, however, if the SON sets them free: by means of HIM... they are given "white robes"... the spirit bodies. He gives this to those who go BACK... into the ARK [of the Covenant]... which is her WOMB... the spirit realm. They do this when he GATHERS them upon his return. She, Jerusalem Above/Sarah... is ACCESSED... by means of the NEW Covenant: those who agree to live by that Covenant are given access to the DOOR... which is CHRIST... and it is through this that those who are HER children are SET free. Because flesh and blood CANNOT enter into... or inherit... the kingdom.
Mary... is "Hagar"... the SLAVE wife... whose children... those born of the FLESH... are BOUND. Slaves... are bound. Thus, they are slaves. To what? Two things: first, their FLESH... because of the desires, sin, and death, IN such flesh. They cannot overcome their flesh; it is their flesh that leads THEM. Second, her children are bound... by means of the OLD Covenant. They are bound TO that Covenant... and shown by their trying to live BY it... rather than by the NEW Covenant.
And here is the point of what we are discussing, that Christ is NOT God: Christ, when he came THROUGH Mary... and thus was a "son of man" was BOUND... by his FLESH... and by and to the Old Covenant. By his FULFILLING that Law, however, not only was HE set free... from IT... and from his FLESH... but was then able to turn around and set all those who would put FAITH IN HIM free as well!
In contrast, the Most Holy One of Israel... has NEVER been bound... by ANYTHING... and certainly not flesh... EXCEPT the Covenants He entered into with Israel... through Moses, first... and now, through Christ. But NEVER... by flesh. Christ, however, WAS bound... not only by a Covenant... but also by FLESH.
He WAS so bound BECAUSE it was the VESSEL he WILLINGLY took on... to save US, the seed of the Woman, Jerusalem Above. As the "cover"... and "propitiatory" OF the Ark [of the Covenant]... he was... and IS... OUR PROTECTOR. Just like it was the task of Michael and Satan to protect HIM (which task Satan turned against)... the Cover... it was and is HIS task to protect US... the seed of the Woman... which seed... MUST be able to RETURN to... AND GO IN AND OUT OF... THE ARK. The spirit realm.
I hope this helps those who are seeking the TRUTH as to this matter, that my Lord is NOT God... but the SON of God... which he was BEFORE he came into the world... when he had PARTIAL authority, glory, and power conferred upon him... AS WELL AS the son of MAN... which he was, by means of MARY'S flesh... when he came into the world... and, yet now, the GLORIFIED AND PROVEN Son of God... by means of returning TO the spirit world and having authority, glory, and power, FULLY conferred upon him, as he is recorded to have said:
"ALL authority has been given me... in heaven and on earth..."
Just as the Most Holy One of Israel, JAH of Armies... GAVE "the kingdoms OF THE EARTH" (and ONLY that) to the Adversary (but for a PURPOSE - so that that one could try and PROVE his accusations)... He gave the ENTIRE kingdom... which is the entire spirit realm AND the entire physical realm... to His SON, my Lord, the Holy One of Israel and Holy Spirit, JAHESHUA. Which Holy One is NOT God (the MOST Holy)... but is the SON of God... for a purpose: us. The SEED... of the Woman... whom he will cherish... and protect... forever.
Again, I hope this helps and I have to go and will get to other necessary responses sometime this weekend.
Peace to you all and may JAH bless!
A slave of Christ,
SA
