Modesty VS Faith

by SweetBabyCheezits 34 Replies latest jw friends

  • SweetBabyCheezits
    SweetBabyCheezits
    That's why I try to refrain from making dogmatic statements such as, "I know this or I know that ... "

    However, I do state, without equivocation, that I BELIEVE.

    Syl and Tec, I respect that attitude. It forces me to rethink my original statement on faith.

    Tammy: I believe with my mind, but I think I believe as much if not more with my heart.
    Tammy: I would have to say that my acknowledgment of believing that he did not exist would be roughly the same acknowledgment that a die-hard atheist gives that God might exist. He knows God doesn't exist, but without absolute proof, he can't state it with absolute certainty.

    This is what I mean by "know" in the relative, almost metaphorical sense. To have strong faith in Jesus... requires those who possess it to know in their hearts, per se, that Jesus exists and loves them, does it not? Whether you utter the word know doesn't really matter as far as my original post is concerned. It may only be something you "know" deep down inside. Is that inaccurate?

    I want the input of those who have faith but I'm trying to measure responses for objectivity and that's very difficult to do. I think if I hadn't started with such a strong assertion, perhaps the replies wouldn't be evasive-ish.

  • tec
    tec

    I think its those occasional moments of doubt that stop me from saying 'know'. It seems somewhat dishonest, like an attempt to make me look better (or stronger) than what I am. Belief seems more honest because there is room for a person to occasionally question their belief. You can't question or doubt what you know.

    However, I concede that this might mean that my faith is weak. Sometimes. But sometimes I have no doubts at all, and at those times my faith is very strong.

    Tammy

  • SweetBabyCheezits
    SweetBabyCheezits

    Yeah, I think that was an inaccurate dichotomy. Thanks for the input. Perception has been adjusted.

    There's still a similar idea there, I just need to figure out how to accurately convey it.

  • designs
    designs

    How reliable is a person's Faith when they descibe as one of their main concepts a cruel God, Modesty, as in acknowledging the progress of the sciences, study of the human animal's behavior, habits, thought processes and anthropology isolates such forms of a Faith in the Early Bronze Age of human development.

  • GrandmaJones
    GrandmaJones

    Oh, Chalam, please answer that. Seriously, I would. Do you hear a voice? Dream a dream? I have always been curious.

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