LAROUCHE THROWS RIDICULERS TRIPLE CURVE

by You Know 113 Replies latest jw friends

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  OUTLAW

  Hey You Know,most here do not oppose the truth,they oppose lies and corruption.As soon as these people speak the truth,they are labelled apostates by the corrupt and their protecters.So really,who are the ones that oppose real truth?Trumped up bullshit someone decides to call the truth,does not make it the real spoken truth..I read your response to larc.Using that logic,I should label you a pediphile,because you support an organization that hides them.How does it feel to be measured by your own moral yardstick?That is just one example,I could go on.You and other pro dubs would prefer to cover over the sickness you call a religion,by calling it the truth...OUTLAW
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  You Know

  OUTLAW writes:

  I will tell you again though,dislikeing corruption or liars does not make one an apostate.

  That's true. Otherwise Jehovah and Jesus and all the sons of the kingdom would have to be labeled as apostates.

  You are suckered because you expect truth from liars.Your on the wrong team.

  I don't think so. What could I possibly gain if I became an apostate? What "truth" do you have that is worth anything? Tell me one thing that you imagine is a universal truth.

  You are safer here than your own kingdom hall.Why? Because you are free to speak your mind here

  You have got to be joking? Apostates have run every conceivable game on me that there is in order to try and neutralize me. I have been threatened, ridiculed relentlessly, slandered, threatened with banning on H20, and who knows what else some have done that I am not even aware of to try and injure me personally. The truth is that I am free to speak my mind because no one can stop me from doing so, but obviously if apostates could, they would.

  Most people here are not apostates,they are decent people tired of lies and corruption.

  If you believe that then it's quite possible that you are the most deluded sucker on the entire planet. Apostates are themselves steeped in lies and corruption. As this board eloquently testifies against you, XJW's are not only spiritually corrupt, being mentally diseased over various questionings, but most evidently many are extremely morally corrupt. Jehovah's own prophetic description of apostates is that 'while they are offering others freedom, they themselves are existing as slaves of corruption.' Can you explain to me how that DOESN'T apply to apostates?

  Calling them apostates because they want to put an end to it,is the wrong thing to do.Their not against god.

  Again, you are fooling yourself. Apostates are against God, whether they realize it or not. Jehovah has already foretold in some detail how he proposes to purge his organization of corrupt and lawless elements. If you are ignorant regarding Jehovah's purposes in that regard then you are in an extremely vulnerable position. And if now you and your friends imagine yourselves to be the ones who are going to take over Christ's role as the reformer of God's organization, an organization, I might add, that you are not even part of, it is evident that you are extremely presumptuous; and just as the scripture says at Psalms 21:11, in reference to our enemies: "They have thought out ideas that they are unable to carry out."

  It is evident to me that you simply don't have the spiritual wherewithal to counter the issues that the cunning evil slave has against us. And because you don't have a spiritual grasp of the truth, you have been recruited into what resembles a lawless mob of torch-carrying brutes, who have also been agitated, manipulated, and incited by someone much smarter than they are, and together you have been duped into storming the Watchtower castle.

  How can you posibly expect to represent god with an organization based on lies and corruption,it can`t be done.Eventualy it will all come crashing down on them,just like it is right now.

  You've got it all wrong. Our organization is based upon the truth. But, as the Bible foretold, corruption has crept in. And you are right too, that at some point, when the system comes crashing down, the Watchtower will also be impacted. That goes back to why I started this thread in the first place. The Triple Curve is an ingenious schematic that projects the end of the system as we presently know it. So, the point is: Be careful what you wish for, because Jehovah's means for dealing with the ferment among his people is to bring the the whole shebang crashing down in a heap. If you had any insight into the word of Jehovah you would know this to be true. But since you don't you are in for the shock of your life.

  They want to blame it on so-called apostates,but its not those people who joined the UN NGO.Nor did those people make rules to hide pediphiles or change the rules from abstanance from blood,to blood portions are all right.What a load of shit they would like to blame on someone else

  In the past those whom God chose to lead his people themselves committed great sins against God. Moses and David are two examples that come to mind. In both instances God punished those men and also the nation as well. But just because those in leadership roles make some false step, or even if they become corrupt, which isn't the case presently, but, in any case, Jehovah always retains the means and prerogative to make the needed corrections when and how he sees fit.

  There are for a fact many hardships that are destined to come upon God's people when this system crashes. That will serve as discipline from Jehovah. When that occurs, these words from Micah 7:8 we will no doubt direct to our religious and apostate enemies: Do not rejoice over me, O you woman enemy of mine. Although I have fallen, I shall certainly rise up; although I dwell in darkness, Jehovah will be a light to me. The raging of Jehovah I shall bear---for I have sinned against him---until he conducts my legal case and actually executes justice for me. He will bring me forth to the light. I shall look upon his righteousness. And my enemy will see, and shame will cover her, who was saying to me: "Where is he, Jehovah your God?" My own eyes will look upon her. Now she will become a place of trampling,like the mire of the streets.

  And these bastards want to say,so-what,we changed the rules live with it.If your looking for god you won`t find him at WBTS...OUTLAW

  You are certainly a man to be most pitied. / You Know
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  SexyTeen

  Thanks YouKnow for your thoughts.

  I have for a fact given that very question considerable thought. And what I have discovered is that Jehovah explains very explicitly in Isaiah how the remaining ones are harvested.

  Could you at least give me the verses that you refer to so I can meditate on them.

  About the "revealing of the sons of God", that is why I asked you a few questions. Recently there was a talk in our hall analyzing Romans 8:18-25 and the speaker explained what that term meant. He also added that sometime during the Great Tribulation and before Armageddon we would know who is/was really annointed or not. That comment got me thinking.

  Thanks for the hint at the end of your comment. That is something I need to study.

  On a personal note, I feel bad that many ridicule you here. But you are very good poster and are very good with words. I enjoy reading your posts.
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  Utopian Reformist

  Sexy Teen:

  "YOU KNOW / Robert King" is in fact very eloquent in posting his lengthy dissertations about biblical topics. He is obviously ensconced in the amazing, ever-changing plethora of WTBS teachings and literature. He is also publically confident of the "sources" and "motives" utilized by the WTBS leadership.

  However, if you are truly "new" to this forum, you will find that Robert posts many threads with startling titles designed to capture attention, much like J. R. Rutherford in the past. What you will find is that when "Robert/YOU KNOW" is challenged with incontrovertible evidence that the information he is propogating is incorrect, he temporarily disappears. When he magically reappears with his "spiritual chariot in tow", he merely dismisses the unfinished, unanswered topics as no longer important, or unworthy of response due to personal attacks.

  I do not attack this person. There is a history between him and others that began long before my tiny presence, however, it does not serve him well, or any other apologist to purposefully ignore, dismiss or reject qualified evidence that establishes facts.

  If the evidence proving an error of the WTBS is credible, historical, academic, scientific and documented, then it is worthy of intense consideration. Robert disagrees. I can offer you recent proof. Please review the following thread and compare responses from each side of this issue, and then judge for yourself:

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=20025&site=3
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  OUTLAW

  Hey You Know,are you stuck on stupid or what?Do you think that post makes people apostates?I was recruited?By who dipshit?That was probably one of the most ill-informed posts I have read on this board.Next time you post back to me,think about what your going to write.I have no time for empty headed horse shit..>>>Hey YO-YO,I don`t think your pulling this Sexy Teen thing off to well...OUTLAW
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  dubla

  yk-

  The truth is that I am free to speak my mind because no one can stop me from doing so, but obviously if apostates could, they would.

  why would anyone want to stop you from speaking your mind? thats what the forum is all about, free speech. and if everyone wanted to shut you up, then why were there so many "sorry to see you go" posts on your "farewell" thread? this is contradictory, surely you realize this..........my opinion is that you like to imagine that we want to shut you up, perhaps this thought strokes your already enlarged ego. the fact is, we wouldnt trade your gloom and doom blubberings for the world, and the forum wouldnt be the same without your numerous nonsensical failed predictions. some might get annoyed with you, for the simple fact that you are simulaneously the most arrogant and ignorant poster on here, and many times you refuse to answer perfectly good arguments/questions. this can be frustrating to those of us that actually enjoy intelligent and challenging discourse, but do not mistake this frustration for the fantasy that you have built up in your head, namely that we wish you to be silent.

  sexy-

  On a personal note, I feel bad that many ridicule you here.

  do not take pity on poor yk for getting ridiculed, for he is the single biggest ridiculer on this forum. he justifies it by quoting scriptures that give him the right to ridicule us "apostates". this falls into the old saying "you can dish it out but you cant take it". yk claims he is ridiculed "relentlessly", when in reality he routinely ridicules all on this forum. if youd like a list of links showing some of yks greatest hits (his many, many ridicules, including playground name-calling tactics), id be more than happy to provide you with one.

  aa
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  Satanus

  Utopian

  I found your prediction that soon trade will be based on euros or a non US dollar system interesting. A friend of mine from the mediteranian area predicted a similar change. Is there more info on this, other than what you already pointed to?

  Thanks SS
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  SexyTeen

  Outlaw: I don't know what you are referring to. Why do you call me a yoyo? I am not crazy, I'm only asking some questions.
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  plmkrzy

  YouKnow and OutLaw, please excuse me for butt’n in for a
  moment but I have a Q for YK I hope he can answer for me.
  I’ve been reading your correspondance back and forth and
  enjoy the debating but the topic that concerns me the most
  I haven’t seen addressed enough, or I just missed it when
  it was.

  1)YK since no one lies to you, what exactly IS your
  position regarding the way absusers are delt with in
  the many congregations where they exist in?

  2) If you had first hand knowledge of someone in
  your congregation that was molesting a child, who
  would you report it to and why?

  plm
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  OUTLAW

  Hey plmkrzy,Good luck talking to this guy.He`s got squirrel`s in his chimney.He`s just come back from a 24hr vacation(LOL).He`ll probably think your trying to shut him up by asking him to speak.If he makes any sense at all let us know we`d like to see it...OUTLAW