Debator,
"the wait and see" was whether it was before not after.
Children of 1975
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debator
Hi Jam
We give the warning still now! not knowing the time makes it ever more important that we keep ready and on "watch".
Armageddon only has to happen once!
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The Finger
Debator,
Christians should always have been ready
Nothing to do with watching the clock as JWs have always done. That is WHAT they teach and then blame everyone else.
Not only do they celebrate the death of Christ they have you publicly reject his sacrifice. Whilst preaching a made up name and a false return of Christ and screwing with the baptism.
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thetrueone
but it was not an official teaching!
So now your saying that their calculation of 6000 years was not a specific teaching are you now ?
Lying is not a Christian virtue is it Debator ?
Oh wait a second lying to support the organization is, right?
It does sell magazines and books though !
The WTS. is a book peddling operation out to sell and circulate as much literature as they can
and sometimes they will use misleading information to do just that.
This concludes Sunday's teaching lessen for Debater
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Juan Viejo2
Debator is the kind of JW apologist that takes an unthinking, unquestioning position supporting the Watchtower's presentation of its own past. They will read the "Proclaimers" book as history, rather than the propaganda that it really is. They will ignore all the facts presented about Russell, Rutherford, Freddie Franz and the other false prophets of the Borg. They choose to ignore the truth even when it is the real truth that will set them free.
At the same time, Debator is the kind of JW that will often be like Saul, who became the Apostle Paul, by unflinchingly and unapologetically persecuting those who tell the truth by exposing the hypocrisy and self-serving lies of the Watchtower's Pharisees.
When, like Saul, they finally do see the truth and admit the error of their ways, they often become far more radical supporters of the facts than most dedicated "apostates." YouTube has dozens of videos presented by just those types of former JWs.
I look forward to the day when Debator finally realizes, like Paul, that she is pointing her finger of accusation toward the wrong group and joins us. Sticking her fingers in her ears and going "la-la-la, I don't hear you!" only hurts her in the long run. The only one who will bear scars from her actions will be her, not us.
JV
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Little Imp
We give the warning still now! not knowing the time makes it ever more important that we keep ready and on "watch".
Armageddon only has to happen once!
Debator, try reading your bible to get the correct picture.
NO-ONE knows when it will will happen, it will come when NO-ONE is expecting it.
You are EXPECTING it, so it will not happen until everyone stops EXPECTING IT.
Please read your bible it is the most accurate truth.
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debator
Hi thetrueone
I'm pretty sure what I meant was clear but since you need clarification. The doctrine that 1975 as Armageddon has never been official or taught. 1975 was recognised as 6000 years since Adam using bible chronology only and hopefulness was gleened from this but that is the worst you can say. I have not denied at any point of this debate that 1975 was a date for 6000 years from Adam but was not mentioned as a date for Armageddon specifically as an official doctrine like 1914 for the end of Gentile times. As the above watchtowers uphold it was only viewed as supporting the fact we are in the "end times" When Armageddon can come at any times.
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The Finger
Debator,
Your on the wrong side.
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Little Imp
Gods allows for his own people to be kept in readiness for it to be happening at any time that is what marks us.
Matthew 24:42-44 (New International Version)
42 "Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. 43 But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. 44 So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.
We keep ourseives ready so when it does happen at an unexpected time we will be ready!
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The Finger
Debator,
No you dont, Your not ready.