by AGuest 198 Replies latest jw friends
I just want to say that reading Shelby's posts always makes me THINK.
There have been quite a few times when I have gotten a whole new understanding of some scriptures because of Shelby's "different" way of looking at things.
Her style is HER style. Everyone has their own.
And I just bet, dear Serenity, that you wouldn't even know a rock pit is called a 'quarry'. Hmmp!
Actually, dear cameo-d (peace to you!), "the place where they dig up rocks" might be more along your line.
Again, peace to you.
A slave of Christ,
SA, "stooping down"...
Thank you, dear Palm... and of course, you too, dear tec and 'Mom. The greatest of love and peace to you!
YOUR servant and a slave of Christ,
SA
"To some who were confident of their own righteousness and looked down on everybody else, Jah eShua told this parable: 'Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector.
Shelby, our Lord has instructed me to tell you to re-read the first part and to apply it to yourself and to please quit changing the writings in your misinterpretation of his name, for he asks me to tell you that you truly do not understand ancient Hebrew or Greek.
Peace to you dear Shelby.
Hey Shelby..
Check your PMs..
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...OUTLAW
Dearest NVL... peace to you... and I accept your greeting of peace because I think you mean it... although I don't think you truly know what you did... and do... when you blaspheme[d]. I wish no illwill against you... and it is not my Lord who punishes for such. As I stated to you, one ultimately punishes oneself... and truly, it's actually worse. Because punishment from the Most Holy One of Israel would be swift. Punishment from oneself tends to last... lingeringly... until one's physical end. Which could be many... many... years.
As for me, please know I did not get angry. Sad, yes. And a bit sick, physically, which occurrs sometimes (especially when I see what is going to occur with such ones). And so I was told to "be still" for a moment by my Lord... and I did.
Be all of that as it may, you continue to make statements regarding what "your" Lord... and "my" Lord... and "our" Lord says to you. In that light, I must ask, are you now saying that you DO believe in God? Christ? The Holy Spirit? If not, may I ask... who is the "Lord" that you keep referring to? What is his/her/its name, please?
Thank you, and again, peace to you.
A slave of Christ,
SA
P.S. If your "Lord" told you that the first part of the verse referred to me, your Lord is a liar... as are you. For I am not righteous... not at all. If I were, there would be NO need for me to be here... speaking with you. Christ didn't come... or give his life... to save righteous people, NVL, for such ones can save themselves. I am here... because I am a sinner... indeed, a foremost sinner. Even now. I can only hope, then, that by my witness of HIM... by my bearing witness TO him... ABOUT him... and the TRUTH about him... perhaps he will grant me just a drop of my heavenly Father's mercy. Because that's all it would take, truly. The gifts I have received are indicative of such a drop... and I won't deny it... or be ashamed of it... for you or anyone else. That you don't get that is indicative of YOUR self-righteousness... your trust in yourself that YOU are righteous. Not mine. I am not him... I am just his servant... and a good for nothing one at that. Which is why I subject myself to your ridicule. For him.
Checking, dear OUTLAW (the greatest of love and peace to you!).
Good to see you back, dear Loubelle (peace to you!). I hope your break was refreshing!
Sno-Birdie (the greatest of love and peace to you, too, my dear!)... I love you... and VERY good question. Unfortunately, most here don't know the answer. Because they only know of "Jeezus"... because that's what man has taught them. One would think that rather than ridiculing ME, who is not the one trying to mislead them... they would simply go to the Source... and ask HIM. That, however, would take more faith than they apparently are able to muster. And how is that my fault? Earthling man... go figure.
But... as always, peace to YOU all!
YOUR servant and a slave of Christ,
SA
Al-righty, then (peace to you all!)...
Enough of THIS subject... at least from me. At least, as to this thread. Either you got it... or you didn't. If you did, great! If you didn't... I don't think I'm one of the two you need to ask why that is.
Peace.
A slave of Christ,
SA, moving on...
As I stated to you, one ultimately punishes oneself... and truly, it's actually worse.
Peace to you dear Shelby. Truly, it is our Lord that informs me you are correct on that, and he also informs me that you are not the one to deliver that message to those that punish themselves, that you overstep your bounds by delivering messages of punishment, for truly they come from your own heart.
I must ask, are you now saying that you DO believe in God? Christ? The Holy Spirit? If not, may I ask... who is the "Lord" that you keep referring to? What is his/her/its name, please?
You may ask, my dear Shelby. Our Lord has instructed me that I am under no compulsion to you, as you are under no compulsion to me. He has made known to you the error of your ways with regard to his name. Whatever else you ask is between you and our Lord, should you only choose to listen to Him and not to your heart and self importance.
If your "Lord" told you that the first part of the verse referred to me, your Lord is a liar... as are you.
Dear Shelby, peace to you and your household, but clearly this did not come from our Lord. This declaration of a LIE, this ACCUSATION, is from your own heart, much like the Original Deceiver, and he begs you to repent.
For I am not righteous... not at all.
This warms my heart, for this is message that our Lord has given me, that no person is truly righteous.
If I were, there would be NO need for me to be here... speaking with you. Christ didn't come... or give his life... to save righteous people, NVL, for such ones can save themselves.
Shelby, our Lord instructs me to asks you to re-read this. The righteous or unrighteous to not at all save themselves. For we can only be saved through our Lord. There is no one righteous. To suggest so is to usurp our Lord and THAT is true blasphemy.
Which is why I subject myself to your ridicule. For him.
Truly I do not ridicule you. That you think correction from our Lord is ridicule is part of the problem he is instructing me to help you understand.
Dearest Glad... you are quite welcome and peace to you! My apologies, but I seriously thought I had responded to you! Since I haven't, I don't want you to think I just dismissed you; I truly did not.
Having Christ talk to you personally must be an awesome confidence booster.
I guess I can see how you would think that, dear one, but actually it's not really. By way of example, I give you the man, Moses. Heck, he saw the spirit in the bush with his own eyes and heard the Most Holy One of Israel's voice with his own ears. He was told to go speak to the king of Egypt. Was he confident? Not at all! Sometimes, though, one finds... indeed, is GIVEN the courage to do something. Jonah should have had it, but didn't. "Confidence" isn't really a word I would associate with here. Foolish, yes. Confident... not so much.
I feel important if the postman smiles and says hello to me.
I would, too! I mean, I NEED my postman - he/she performs a very important service for me!
You do attract a great deal of abuse for you efforts to educate others in the ways of righteousness.
You... and so many others... totally misunderstand. I am no one's teacher. I am not trying to educate anyone in the ways of anything. I am only sharing what it given to me... whether one hears... or refrains. Take it... or leave it. But it is the truth... and I do receive it from my Lord. Of those things I am certain about.
There are times when even my hard heart feels empathy for you.
Thank you, dear Glad... but, truly, do not let your heart become burdened for/over me. I can walk way at any time. I am not so bound that I cannot. But my Lord gave his life for me. What's me giving a little of my pride for him?
I wonder if you realize why you receive such a reaction?
I absolutely do! I was told that I would... and why.
Your style of delivery suggests that you enjoy attention.
Well, if you CHOOSE not to give me the benefit of the doubt... if you CHOOSE to believe that I am doing this for the attention... as opposed to love and service... if you CHOOSE to think that I am elevating myself... rather than simply obeying the voice of my Lord... well, yeah, I guess I can see it that way. I don't fault you... or anyone else... for seeing me as you do. What YOU don't understand... and I think what gets to some of you... is that that does not matter to me. I am not seeking your approval. I am not seeking the approval of ANY man. And it really does amaze me, sometimes, that many of you read... and read... and read... the Bible... and yet, don't get this. You think (if you believe "in" the Bible)... that the "spirit" of Elijah died with... who, John the Baptist? Christ? The Apostles? Yet, I marvel that so many claim to put their faith in the Bible and yet... UTTERLY DISREGARD what even IT says... about hearing the voice of the Fine Shepherd, about the Most Holy One of Israel pouring out some of His spirit... and sons and daughters prophesying, speaking in tongues, etc.
How can one claim to believe in the Bible... then utterly disregard what it STATES? I mean, I openly profess that I do not put my faith in the Bible. But I am amazed at those who DO... yet, deny the very things IT states would occur. I mean... what did folks THINK such "pouring out" was going to look/sound like??
Whether negative or positive, you like to be in front of the class.
Well, obviously, you've never attended class with me. I almost always sit in the back row... behind the tall guy - LOLOLOLOL! Also, I don't ask anyone to open my threads, dear Glad, truly. I do nothing different than any others here and that is post what's in MY heart. Now, if folks see "AGuest" and go, "OOOh, what's she posting NOW!"... and, due to a lack of their OWN self-control... MUST open... heck, even RESPOND... to what I post... how is that MY fault????????????
We all enjoy attention from time to time but the wrong kind of attention is not healthy.
Yet, here you are. Not only reading a thread I started (because I could see if it was one someone else started and you are just commenting on my response to THAT)... but RESPONDING. If such "attention" is SO wrong... why do you keep GIVING it???? What is wrong with YOU??? The answer is easy: my posts "speak" to you. You cannot help it. But the truth, dear one, is that it's not MY voice you are hearing... or even looking for. But, as I have stated time and time again - you do not have to listen to ME. You should NOT be listening to me. But... for some reason... you cannot seem to grasp that, either. What is UP with that??
Despite you humble servant and slave of Christ signature, your posts don't appear to show genuine humility.
Stated like a true [ex] JW - LOLOLOLOL! "Well, Shelby, you don't SOUND repentant!" Tell me, dear Glad... what does "genuine humility" LOOK like? Now, I am sure we all have our opinions on that, but I will share what I have LEARNED it means: genuine humility means ALLOWING yourself to be in a position where you are derided, ridiculed, and, in some instances, utterly humiliated... which is what some, indeed MANY, shoot for when posting to me... by another/others... particularly for the sake of another. I allow it... because of my love for the One whose "torture" tree/stake/pole I have agreed to carry. It's NOT fun... it's NOT easy... it IS humiliating... but... it's for him.
So, you can think of me what you will - I am not concerned. It is what HE thinks of me that is important to me. And after every humiliating "battle" with some of you, I hear HIM say to me: "Well done, child. Now, let ME refresh you." And he does. I receive some "reward". A vision... some understanding that I didn't have before... the ability to understand the symbols of a language I don't even speak... a "revelation"... something. Which is how... and why... I keep going. You have NOTHING to offer me. He has everything. And so if taking one... or two... or ten... for HIM... means I receive these WONDERFUL "gifts"... I'll take whatever life... you those like you... wish to throw.
That is a desirable attribute in anyone; for a slave of the Lord, essential. This is just my observation.
Apparently, not. Apparently, it is something that must be hidden, kept to oneself, stifled, ashamed of... even denied. Apparently. But openly profess it? Shout it from the mountains (even though much of what you receive is "whispered")? Uh-uh... heck no. Not in the WTBTS... and certainly not here (although "here" is "not like" there... right?).
Perhaps you could get your message across more successful if you gave consideration to comments that people make about your style of delivery?
That assumes I am trying to "win" people, dear one. In which case, it would be quite beneficial for me to "tickle" ears. But to do that, I would have to give them a "different" Christ than the One who speaks to me. Maybe like the one who runs around putting bracelets on people that say "WWJD"... or bumper stickers with little fish illustrations on them. Aren't there enough of those folks out there already?
I have a number of Christian friends, including a vicar who comes for dinner in my house and invites me to his.
Okay...
I also have a close friend who is a Buddhist and other friends who follow no particular spiritual path. We are able to get on because we respect each others present understanding of the meaning of life.
I have friends of virtually EVERY religion, dear Glad. And we, too, get along just fine. But I think you... and several others... keep thinking that what I share is for everyone. It is not. I STATE who it is for. Which, I might add... always amazed me when folks who openly profess that they don't even believe in God... open, read... and respond! What IS that? I mean, if you don't even believe in God... what is the POINT? Even more so, I must say that I do find it a bit... well, amusing, actually... that such ones have NO problem with other "christians" and their posts/messages... but for some reason MINE tend to... well, ooooh-weee! Why? What's so different? Someone might say, "Well, you claim to speak for God," which I do not... not at all. Or "You claim to speak for Christ." Which I also do not do. I don't speak FOR anyone but myself. "Okay, you claim to HEAR God." Nope. Only done that 5 times. "Okay... you claim to hear Christ." Yes! Yes, I do! But if you don't BELIEVE in Christ... why does that bother YOU? Why does MY claim bother you more... any more... than any other "christians" comments?
I will answer: fear. But if there is NO God... fear of WHAT? People following me?? Three, maybe four people have stepped up... in close to ten years. Yet, there are "christians" here who have literally started churches... and LITERALLY have people following them. Yet... you fear me. A least one in the kingdom of God.
What did you say? You DON'T fear me? Then why are you trying to silence me? If I am NO threat (and I am not, but for some reason some can't see that)... why not allow me MY freedom of speech? Why am I less entitled than anyone else who posts here? People post everything from Satanic propoganda to XXX porn. Profanity, threats, unhealthy speech... all kinds of stuff. They, however, are considered "harmless"... while I am considered the [true] threat. To what? To whom? For what? Because I tell you that YOU can hear the voice of Christ just like I do? Seriously??
So you see, I bear you no ill-will and hope you receive a more gentle ride in the weeks ahead.
Now, see, this is the thing about perceptions, dear Glad. You "see" me as an ego-maniacal attention grabber... based on what I post. I see you as indeed bearing me ill-will... by what YOU posted. But, I CHOOSE to give you the benefit of the doubt that, in spite what it APPEARS like to me, based on your comments, above, you really DO bear me no ill-will... and really DO hope things are a bit gentler for me. I CHOOSE to believe this... because you now SAY it. Because THESE words temper your other words... which, again, gave me a different impression. As I ask is that you do the same for me: CHOOSE... to give me the benefit of the doubt that what I am saying IS true.
I bid you peace.
YOUR servant and a slave of Christ,
SA
